Spiritus Mundi

[rogerc]

I've recently began trying to collect these "devotional" tears in a small glass vial, in the hopes of collecting enough to use as a starting matter. Looks like this may take some time though

Good idea......we seem to think alike.

[rogerc]

...this is not a bodily response but an astral one or rather a resonance that strikes a chord with the astral senses.....that is why the emotion and the tingling sensation sweeps over the whole body or a certain target area of it so quickly it sometimes brings tears to the eyes.......

I wanted to add.... for the readers..... that when I go to take a piss I get the same tingling feeling throughout my body so much so that it gives me the chills sometimes and triggers slight involutary convulsions .....and so I can't explain why....... but I believe that part of my astral body leaves or bleeds off with my urine especially in the morning.....and thats why I have always believed urine was a valid path that could be used if not alone but more properly in conjunction with natures methods to fix spiritus mundi in a suitable earth as I have written much of.

[Andro]

Moses was a magician with his staff and his voice he commanded the elements...

Similar thing occurred to me, in a way... No staff, though - but I DID build one of my in initial 'Athanor/Portal' devices that facilitated the manifestation I mentioned in previous posts.

Singing to it only enhanced what was ALREADY occurring.

ADABRACADBRA!

Do you mean 'Abra-Cadabra'?

In Old Hebrew, the word for 'thing' is the same as the word for 'word'/'speech'. 'Word'/'Speech'/'Thing' - - - same thing.

'Abra-Cadabra' means (in Old Hebrew - or Aramaic, I'm not sure): "I create what I speak" (אברא כדברא)

[rogerc]

Similar thing occurred to me, in a way... No staff, though - but I DID build one of my in initial 'Athanor/Portal' devices that facilitated the manifestation I mentioned in previous posts.

Singing to it only enhanced what was ALREADY occurring.



Do you mean 'Abra-Cadabra'?

In Old Hebrew, the word for 'thing' is the same as the word for 'word'/'speech'. 'Word'/'Speech'/'Thing' - - - same thing.

'Abra-Cadabra' means (in Old Hebrew - or Aramaic, I'm not sure): "I create what I speak" (אברא כדברא)

Yeah ....sorry...ipad popup keyboards.....but precisely.....I will create what I speak......

[Andro]

I have always believed urine was a valid path that could be used if not alone but more properly in conjunction with natures methods to fix spiritus mundi in a suitable earth as I have written much of.

If we look closely at Urine, it also contains IN ITSELF a 'Suitable Earth' such as you have mentioned.

This 'Earth' is a Key to processes proposing to make exclusive use of urine as the so-called 'matter'...

It comes from a 'tree', and is the source of both the White (Earth/Nurse) and Red (Sulfur)

This post should have belonged in another thread, but since you brought it up here ...

[Nibiru]

Once again, it's the snake biting its own tail. Around and around we go :-) Alchemy is a strange art, isn't it? Any advice that even a knowledgeable alchemist provides can be taken literally, metaphorically, or in complete reverse. How is anyone ever to learn from that?
But at least your magnet is some-thing :-)

Hello Illen I'm sorry but in this case I was not trying to be cryptic, I literally meant that my magnet was No-Thing in the truest since of the word.

I wanted to add.... for the readers..... that when I go to take a piss I get the same tingling feeling throughout my body so much so that it gives me the chills sometimes and triggers slight involuntary convulsions .....and so I can't explain why....... but I believe that part of my astral body leaves or bleeds off with my urine especially in the morning.....and thats why I have always believed urine was a valid path that could be used if not alone but more properly in conjunction with natures methods to fix spiritus mundi in a suitable earth as I have written much of.

I've always felt the same way about urinating, it feels very energetic and more so the worse that you need to go. I believe this feeling comes from some form of charge and release of energy akin to how Reich describes the orgasm. The longer and more intense the charging is = higher intensity discharge/ tingling rushes and sensations. Consider our bodies as an energetic capacitor of sorts. I've noticed that the same feeling always seems to relate to a fast release of substance and energy. Here are other examples: urinating, defecating, sneezing, orgasm, sudden-fear, and I would assume death above all. I've had bulimics and blood-letters(cutters) tell me they experience similar energetic chills of release while vomiting or letting blood. Come to think of it, I would bet that any of the matters associated with these forms of release would make for excellent starting materials, though I've yet to try any of them..

[alfr]

Hi every one

TEARS-SWEAT (Lacrimae-Sudore) METHOD
this is one document ORIGINAL AND TRADITIONAL OT THE TESAURUS TESAURORUM OF GERMAN GOLDEN RC about the method of the TEARS AND SIMILAR MATTERS
(NB i am sure and i dont think !!! that this instruction with tears etc. is in comnection with any methods for attact and coagulation (in globe vacumm) the spiritus mundi indeterminate of THE VERY IMPORTANT AND TRADITIONAL METHOD of Lion Green or of the REVISITED NEW EDITION -sure very very interesting- of this method with singing or speak... by Rogerc etc say "abracadabra" !!!)
but i think this documet TRADIDIONAL AND ORIGINAL- sorry but IMHO is better always to study reserch experiment etc and go deep with the based-source of the original and traditional istructions - ( i am sorry but is in french but to soon one version all translation in english of the thesauro thesaurorun RC will edition by edition Vitriol and after wath with very inportant original and traditional document alchemical operative of the RC provisions of all I think that after this important publication much conjecture and speculation based on pure and mere ideas yes SURE laudable but there are not supported by serious evidence very original traditional will change...as are success in every part of the word where this precious tesaure of this manuscript of the operativity alchemial was public it .) is very importat - however, because here we are dealing with the ache tears etc.- For to all the research want use tears etc in form alchemycal for made elixir etc and this have origin by one source true original and traditional and SO i hope is good contribute ORIGINAL AND TRADITIONAL for all the member of this forum

my best regard alfr

Tertium ex Lacrimae-Sudore

Dieu dit dans le 1er . Livre du Genèse , 13:
Tu mangeras ton pain avec la sueur du front tant que tu ne redeviens pas terre de
laquelle tu viens: ceux qui cherchent avec des larmes recueilleront avec joie, car la
rosée qui tombe du Hermon est celle qui sert pour cet art.
Il n'est pas facile d'obtenir les larmes, parce que ce sont une eau spirituel salée de Mercure, mais la sueur du
front est un Esprit de sel subtil, quand il vient recueilli c'est un grand Solvant, parce
qu'il est volatil. Je te dirai simplement ceci: Prends cet Esprit de sel et pulvérise-le
ensemble avec des feuilles d'or dans un bol de verre tant qu'il ne devient pas noir
comme l'encre. Mets-le dans un petit vase et faites digérer et après beaucoup de
couleurs il se transformera à la fin dans une huile rouge sang. Autrement tu
recueilles cette sueur ou larmes, mets-les ensemble dans un vase, après faites
putréfier pendant un mois et distille dans un matras haut et bien fermé l'Esprit
Mercuriel et quand auras obtenu seulement 1/2 lots, tu pourras faire des grands
miracles avec lui. Versé sur l'or calciné (chaux d’or), il deviendra une huile sang
rouge, il faut le séparer de toutes ses fèces et le mettre sur un four de fixation pour le
fixer.

Annotation

Il faut à ce point savoir que les larmes et la sueur sont la rosée du petit monde.
Reste cependant: la question de quelle sueur sera la meilleure? C'est le secret le plus
grand dans cet art. Ainsi donc si tu es au jeûne le matin, nettoie-toi bien le visage en
le lavant avec de l’ eau pure, tu marches à la campagne en promenade assez vite en
tant qu'il ne commence pas à couler ton fontaine (fontina), (sic) c'est-à-dire tant que la
sueur ne reste pas sur le front en gouttes limpides, alors assieds-toi, tu tiens prêt un
récipient d'argent fin ou d’or, semblable à une petite cuillère ou une coquille, plié
comme une faux, mets-le sur ton front, et toutes les gouttes couleront dedans; quand
ils arrêtent, mets-le dans un petit vase, recommence à marcher tant que ta fontaine
coule, mais ne le faites pas plus de 3 fois, autrement tu deviendras trop épuisé, car
le plus subtil sel tout est dans la mémoire de l’homme pour le renforcer, si cependant
tu marches en jeûne et tu n’as rien dans l'estomac qui puisse s’évaporer encore,
finalement ta tête deviendra faible. Le jour refais-le après, aussi 3 fois tant que tu
n'as pas recueilli 4 loth. Apres mets-le en a pourrir, puis distille-le et il se séparera
une eau subtile très volatile ou esprit de sel, verse-le à travers (dessus) une chaux d'
or subtil, et faites-le digérer ensemble pendant 1 moins, après filtre ton huile rouge
sang dans un autre vase, restera un peu de terre blanche. Tu fermes bien le vase avec
l'huile, mets-le dans le four secret et tu procèdes comme nous avons expliqué
maintes fois, après un délai bref de temps il se fixe et devient solide. Tu peux aussi
utiliser le premier Esprit (Spiritus) pour ce but, mais il ne redeviendra pas plus de 3
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fois une huile. Il teint l'or et le transforme en une teinture, c'est-à-dire l'huile sur 10
parties d'or et celui-ci 5 parties sur quinze parties de mercure. Pour le blanc il est le
même.
( n.d.e. : le 4ème livret, sur la salive, n'existe pas dans le manuscrit original)

[Illen A. Cluf]

Hi every one

TEARS-SWEAT (Lacrimae-Sudore) METHOD
this is one document ORIGINAL AND TRADITIONAL OT THE TESAURUS TESAURORUM OF GERMAN GOLDEN RC about the method of the TEARS AND SIMILAR MATTER S
(NB i am sure and i dont think!!! this is in comnection with any methods for attact and coagulation ( in globe vacumm) the spiritus mundi indeterminate of THE VERY IMPORTANT AND TRADITIONAL METHOD of Lion Green or of the new sure very very interesting edition revisited of the method with by singing or speak... by rogerc etc say abracadabra!!!)

Thanks, alfr.

Dieu dit dans le 1er . Livre du Genèse , 13:

This seems not to have been translated correctly from the original. It should be Genesis, Chapter 3, Verse 19.

Illen

[Rueb]

Hallelujah

Now I’ve heard there was a secret chord

That David played, and it pleased the Lord

But you don’t really care for music, do you?

It goes like this; The fourth, the fifth

The minor fall, the major lift

The baffled king composing Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof

You saw her bathing on the roof

Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you

She tied you To a kitchen chair

She broke your throne, and she cut your hair

And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Baby I have been here before

I know this room, I’ve walked this floor

I used to live alone before I knew you.

I’ve seen your flag on the marble arch

Love is not a victory march

It’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

There was a time you let me know

What’s really going on below

But now you never show it to me, do you?

And remember when I moved in you

The holy dove was moving too

And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Maybe there’s a God above

And all I ever learned from love

Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew you

It’s not a cry you can hear at night

It’s not somebody who’s seen the light

it’s a cold and it’s a broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

You say I took the name in vain

I don’t even know the name

But if I did, well really, what’s it to you?

There’s a blaze of light In every word

It doesn’t matter which you heard

The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah

I did my best, it wasn’t much

I couldn’t feel, so I tried to touch

I’ve told the truth, I didn’t come to fool you

And even though It all went wrong

I’ll stand before the Lord of Song

With nothing on my tongue but H a l l e l u j a h

[Andro]

I'm getting goosebumps from listening to this song, especially the version by K.D. Lang.

And it is SO VERY appropriate for this thread (I mean it!)...

Thank you so much, Rueb, for making this connection - it was already there, but you brought it to light, in EXACTLY the right place (IMO).

Longing, longing for the One Thing...

H a l l e l u j a h