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    Spirals and Vortexes

    I've been seeing spirals in nature, meditation, and dreams recently. I feel they may play an important role in the relationship of the material plane with that of the unmanifest.

    I don't have much to say on the subject as of yet, I just felt that others may have valuable insights to add to this topic once it had been opened..

    Here's a short video on spirals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhiPmVHAuTA
    Still Searching.............

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    Hi Nibiru

    If you are into spirals and vortexes check out this video of the sky over Norway.



    I'm not sure if the vid' is fake, you will have to decide that for yourself.

    There are many other videos like this on YouTube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibiru View Post
    I've been seeing spirals in nature, meditation, and dreams recently. I feel they may play an important role in the relationship of the material plane with that of the unmanifest.

    I don't have much to say on the subject as of yet, I just felt that others may have valuable insights to add to this topic once it had been opened..

    Here's a short video on spirals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhiPmVHAuTA
    In hebrew aleph-beth, the 9th letter-number (9 is a spiral) is teth and the figure/hieroglyph is a serpent, also defined as "coiling".
    I'm sure I could say a lot more on spirals, but that specifically interests me of late.
    And spin interests me - like how a gyroscope seems to defy ordinary laws simply based on the fact that it is spinning.
    And tornados and hurricanes have a center or eye of stillness, just as the spiralling magnetic waves have a bloch wall in the center.
    This relates to the rotation of the elements - you have to rotate them very fast.
    http://serpentrioarquila.blogspot.com/

    "To conjure is nothing else than to observe anything rightly, to know and understand what it is." - Paracelsus

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    Quote Originally Posted by solomon levi View Post
    In hebrew aleph-beth, the 9th letter-number (9 is a spiral) is teth and the figure/hieroglyph is a serpent, also defined as "coiling".
    I'm sure I could say a lot more on spirals, but that specifically interests me of late.
    And spin interests me - like how a gyroscope seems to defy ordinary laws simply based on the fact that it is spinning.
    And tornados and hurricanes have a center or eye of stillness, just as the spiralling magnetic waves have a bloch wall in the center.
    This relates to the rotation of the elements - you have to rotate them very fast.
    This passage may not literally line up with your post - it just came to mind because I read it yesterday on a website about the spiral shape of seashells and the solar system.

    When I read it, I tend to get a picture, applicable or not, of someone hand-stirring a Steinerian BioDynamic preparation out in a field.

    The Hermetic Arcanum

    83. The Circulation of the Elements is performed by a double Whorl, by the greater or extended and the less or contracted. The Whorl extended fixeth all the Elements of the Earth, and its circle is not finished unless the work of Sulphur be perfected. The revolution of the minor Whorl is terminated by the extraction and preparation of every Element. Now in this Whorl there are three Circles placed, which always and variously move the Matter, by an Erratic and Intricate Motion, and do often (seven times at least) drive about every Element, in order succeeding one another, and so agreeable, that if one shall be wanting the labour of the rest is made void. These Circulations are Nature's Instruments, whereby the Elements are prepared. Let the Philosopher therefore consider the progress of Nature in the Physical Tract, more fully described for this very end.

    84. Every Circle hath its proper Motion, for all the Motions of the Circles are conversant about the subject of Humidum and Siccum, and are so concatenated that they produce the one operation, and one only consent of Nature: two of them are opposite, both in respect of their causes and the effects; for one moveth upwards, drying by heat; another downwards, moistening by cold; a third carrying the form of rest and sleep by digesting, induceth the cessation of both in greatest moderation.

    85. Of the three Circles, the first is Evacuation, the labour of which is in extracting the superfluous Humidum and also in separating the pure, clean and subtle, from the gross and terrestrial dregs. Now the greatest danger is found in the motion of this Circle, because it hath to do with things Spiritual and makes Nature plentiful.

    86. Two things are chiefly to be taken heed of in moving this Circle; first, that it be not moved too intensely; the other, that it be not moved for too long a time. Motion accelerated raiseth confusion in the matter, so that the gross, impure and undigested part may fly out together with the pure and subtle, and the Body undissolved be mixed with the Spirit, together with that which is dissolved. With this precipitated motion the Heavenly and Terrestrial Natures are confounded, and the Spirit of the Quintessence, corrupted by the admixture of Earth is made dull and invalid. By too long a motion the Earth is too much evacuated of its Spirit, and is made so languishing, dry and destitute of Spirit, that it cannot easily be restored and recalled to its Temperament. Either error burneth up the Tincture, or turneth it into flight.

    87. The Second Circle is Restoration; whose office is to restore strength to the gasping and debilitated body by Potion. The former Circle was the Organ of sweat and labour, but this of restoration and consolation. The action of this is employed in the grinding and mollifying the Earth (Potter-like), that it may be the better mixed.

    88. The motion of this Circle must be lighter than that of the former, especially in the beginning of its Revolution, lest the Crow's young ones be drowned in nest by a large flood, and the growing world be drowned by a deluge. This is the Weigher and Assayer of Measures, for it distributeth Water by Geometrical Precepts. There is usually no greater Secret found in the whole practice of the Work than the firm and justly weighed Motion of this Circle; for it informeth the Philosophers' infant and inspireth Soul and Life into him.

    89. The Laws of this Circle's motions are, that it run about gently: and by little and little, and sparingly let forth itself, lest that by making haste it fail from its measure, and the Fire inherent be overwhelmed with the Waters, the Architect of the Work grow dull, or also be extinguished: that meat and drink be administered by turns, to the end there may be a better Digestion made, and the best temperament of Humidum, and Siccum; for the indissoluble colligation of them both is the End and Scope of the Work. Furthermore see, that you add so much by Watering, as shall be found wanting in assaying, that Restoration may restore so much of the lost strength by corroborating, as Evacuation hath taken away by debilitating.

    90. Digestion, the last Circle, acteth with silent and insensible Motion; and therefore it is said by Philosophers, that it is made in a secret furnace; it decocteth the Nutriment received, and converteth it into the Homogeneous parts of the body. Moreover, it is called Putrefaction; because as meat is corrupted in the Stomach before it passeth into Blood and similar parts; so this operation breaketh the Aliment with a concocting and Stomach heat and in a manner makes it to putrefy that it may be the better Fixed, and changed from a Mercurial into a Sulphurous Nature. Again, it is called Inhumation, because by it the Spirit is inhumated, as a dead man buried in the ground. But because it goeth most slowly, it therefore needeth a longer time. The two former Circles do labour especially in dissolving, this in congealing although all of them work in both ways.

    91. The Laws of this Circle are, that it be moved by the Feverish and most gentle heat of Dung, lest that the things volatile fly out, and the Spirit be troubled at the time of its strictest Conjunction with the Body, for then the business is perfected in the greatest tranquility and ease; therefore we must especially beware lest the Earth be moved by any Winds or Showers. Lastly, as this third Circle may always succeed the second straightways and in due order, as the second the first: so by interrupted works and by course those three erratic Circles do complete one entire circulation, which often reiterated doth at length turn all things into Earth, and makes similarity between opposites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I tend to get a picture, applicable or not, of someone hand-stirring a Steinerian BioDynamic preparation out in a field.
    This started another thread for me so I will answer it in the thread:

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    “Substances placed in water are stirred for many minutes, clockwise
    and counterclockwise* so that the resulting vortex pulls the cosmic
    forces into the fluid. This fluid strengthens plants against pest attacks
    and increases the nutritional value as well.”



    “Using animal parts, like horns and bladders, stuffing them with
    preparations and burying them for a specific amount of time produced
    substances so powerful that could energize an acre of soil from a teaspoonful.”

    http://www.growbetterveggies.com/gro...-agricult.html
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    * Chirality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality
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    Cool link Albion, this is the kind of information I was hoping to uncover with this thread

    Here's a short video clip explaining the importance of vortex math in creation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vybaO0bYM0U
    Still Searching.............

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    Secrets of the Soil [Steiner Biodynamics, Coanda, Radionics, Spiral, Flanagan, etc]

    http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Soil-S...2341645&sr=1-1


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    The fertile Earth - Victor Schauberger [I recall an Alchemist recommending this.
    I have a copy, along with these others, but have yet to read it]

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/73391733/S...tile-Earth-212


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    Nature as Teacher -Victor Schauberger

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/73391539/S...-of-Nature-184


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    The Water Wizard -Victor Schauberger

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/73391777/S...ural-Water-220


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    Living Energies -Callum Coats

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/73391515/S...g-Energies-312


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    Living Water

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/73391159/S...ral-Energy-155


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    The alternate-energy-laden scribd-shelf of ‘UnmeritedFavor’

    http://www.scribd.com/UnmeritedFavor/documents?page=1
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    [Note: If, when you attempt to download a document, you get a pop-up mentioning a fee schedule, simply find the option to UPLOAD a document. By simply contributing something from your own files you get to download any scribd document for free for some period of time. Also: The formatting of these Schauberger texts are sometimes rather poor as compared with the hardcopy books themselves ]
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    "Quantum physicist Viktor Schauberger has shown that energy in the natural world flows in vortex patterns of rotation and counter rotation with points of change and equilibrium in between. (C. Coates 1996). We can see this process very simply in currents of wind and water.

    Schauberger believed that water flowing in an inward turning, centripetal vortex receives and develops life energy, while outward turning, centrifugal, vortical motions disperses and destroys it."
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    Vortex Mechanics:

    http://www.feandft.com/55%20Vortex%20Mechanics.htm

    [Click on the individual graphics to open additional windows]

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    From Solomons's thread here: http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...ancer-biopathy

    Quote Originally Posted by Nibiru View Post
    Here's another man that wasn't recognized for what he was http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77589537728517
    Still Searching.............

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