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    The option I prefer (for the moment?) is to be present, which isn't destined
    or laid out but spontaneously new/unknown because the knower is absent.
    The knower is the willful being; without knowledge there isn't a path/choice to will.
    One might as well say that the only choice aligned with God's will is to be present/choiceless -
    that is alignment with God/what is/That Thou Art/I AM THAT I AM.
    Or we say that every will, the ALL, is God's will.
    This is center and circumference of God.
    Then there's the between, the area of the circle, the "10,000 things" of Lao Tsu, or the
    "one description among billions" of Castaneda:

    "The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
    The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
    The nameless is the beginning of heaven and Earth.
    The named is the mother of the ten thousand things.
    Ever desireless, one can see the mystery.
    Ever desiring, one sees the manifestations.
    These two spring from the same source but differ in name; this appears as darkness.

    Darkness within darkness.
    The gate to all mystery."
    http://serpentrioarquila.blogspot.com/

    "To conjure is nothing else than to observe anything rightly, to know and understand what it is." - Paracelsus

    "Why, then, don't you act when you see the danger of your conditioning? The answer is you don't see... seeing is acting." J. Krishnamurti

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    Yes if I look at it like that it works well, to be present and awake in the constant presence of direct experiences + adding the notion that if I am indeed a part of 'god' then I am god so in this sense god's will is my will.


    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    “Love is real… love is free.”
    Love Is Not Enough by Mark Manson

    The above article is technically about couples, but many points can be easily expanded to include all human relationships.

    An excerpt from the article:


    "In 1967, John Lennon wrote a song called, “All You Need is Love.” He also beat both of his wives, abandoned one of his children, verbally abused his gay Jewish manager with homophobic and anti-semitic slurs, and once had a camera crew film him lying naked in his bed for an entire day.

    Thirty-five years later, Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails wrote a songcalled “Love is Not Enough.” Reznor, despite being famous for his shocking stage performances and his grotesque and disturbing videos, got clean from all drugs and alcohol, married one woman, had two children with her, and then cancelled entire albums and tours so that he could stay home and be a good husband and father.

    One of these two men had a clear and realistic understanding of love. One of them did not.

    One of these men idealized love as the solution to all of his problems. One of them did not.

    One of these men was probably a narcissistic asshole. One of them was not.

    In our culture, many of us idealize love. We see it as some lofty cure-all for all of life’s problems.

    Our movies and our stories and our history all celebrate it as life’s ultimate goal, the final solution for all of our pain and struggle.

    And because we idealize love, we overestimate it. As a result, our relationships pay a price.

    When we believe that “all we need is love,” then like Lennon, we’re more likely to ignore fundamental values such as respect, humility and commitment towards the people we care about.

    After all, if love solves everything, then why bother with all the other stuff — all of the hard stuff?


    But if, like Reznor, we believe that “love is not enough,” then we understand that healthy relationships require more than pure emotion or lofty passions.

    We understand that there are things more important in our lives and our relationships than simply being in love.

    And the success of our relationships hinges on these deeper and more important values."

    The song:



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    Last edited by Andro; 03-18-2017 at 09:25 AM.

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    Stumble the talk.

    As for the rest of the argument: if love is not enough then it wasn't "real" love to begin with

    "Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it."
    ― Jalaluddin Rumi

    Sure society often speaks of love. But they speak of reason. Peace. Justice. Rights... and a bunch of other ideas as well. Doesn't mean any of those things exist. It is just words. Love is an experience. Not a concept. And "to be in love" is not the same thing as "love" IMO.

    Last edited by Awani; 03-18-2017 at 09:24 PM. Reason: Add Rumi

    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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