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    Women are last-timers

    This argument requries a little generalization, but please let's not split hairs.

    If reincarnation is true and if the path to nirvana is compassion/love then women in general seem more comfortable and close to this. They are comfortable with love, with tears and compassion. Are they perhaps last-timers?

    And men who are 'feminine' are perhaps soon women, soon last-timers etc...

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  2. path to nirvana is to destroy suffering. this is what the first Buddha told us. material world is suffering and women are inherently with suffering or agents of suffering (childbirth= pain and promotes creation of additional matter or more suffering).

    one way for them to achieve nirvana is to be reborn as males after they abandon child bearing (died single or never had a child).

    and from being males, they can achieve nirvana.

    yes, only males can achieved nirvana.

    Nothing wrong with this because females are not totally barred. they just need to do something (to be literally free from suffering), be reborn as males.

    Yes, souls' gender is genderless imo (is not male nor female.) and it just rides on the gender of the material body without assuming the actual gender of material body.

    There's a reason why males are males and females are females.
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    Hey Dev,
    I used to have this weird thought sometimes like, our soul will incarnate here on earth like 3 or maybe more times to experience different feelings.
    Example:
    Say in your first life you were very poor, you had to face with tough vicissitudes of life.
    Your second life, was the middle class, normal life that probably had to do with the stability of emotions and equilibrium.
    Third life was the rich one that you probably can describe it with lust compassion and a fast heart beating stressful excitement.

    The forth, you are the complete spiritual vessel ready to do good or bad to this world, now this world is in your hands, it depends on you, you are its light or destruction, natures constructor and it will all depend on our choice
    on which part of life we want to return again: first, second, third?

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    I'll 'Plead the 5th' on this one.

    Some things are better left unspoken, but rather directly and individually discovered, beyond mere opinion.
    Yes, there is a 'system' (of sorts) in place here, and there are certain conditions to be met by so-called 'Last Timers'/'Final Incarnations'.
    Those who know these things directly, would simply not rationalize and/or debate them, least of all the 'Last Timers' themselves (I'd say...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenerson View Post
    yes, only males can...
    I don't know what is true, but whatever it is I strongly disagree with the above. For me suffering is equal both genders and childbirth is a suffering most women want. I don't see it as part of the sufferings of life. If so taking a big dump is suffering...

    That only men can achieve nirvana is ridicilous to me.

    I might add that when I speak of reincarnation it has nothing to do with Buddha/Buddism. That is just a human invention like all religions. Just BS. If reincarnation is true then it existed millions of years before any religion was formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    I'll 'Plead the 5th' on this one.

    Some things are better left unspoken, but rather directly and individually discovered, beyond mere opinion.
    Yes, there is a 'system' (of sorts) in place here, and there are certain conditions to be met by so-called 'Last Timers'/'Final Incarnations'.
    Those who know these things directly, would simply not rationalize and/or debate them, least of all the 'Last Timers' themselves (I'd say...)
    We are of like-mind on that note.

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    Saying you shall not speak is speaking so you both failed. LOL.

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    Being a so-called 'Last Timer' (Monroe term), does not equal passage to so-called 'Nirvana'.

    From a relatively linear perspective, upon experiencing everything that's needed from this physical plane and achieving the so-called 'Escape Velocity' (another Monroe term), 'The Game' simply goes on/continues on other levels/planes of 'Reality'. No rest for the wicked

    Also, just like suffering is not especially attuned to the female gender, neither is love/compassion. We should not confuse the feelings with the ways they are expressed, just as we should not confuse Form with Principle.

    We should also not confuse tears (or the lack thereof) with our own interpretations/rationalizations of them.

    And yes, like Glenerson said, genderization is only an attribute of the physical bodies. But most people would have to wait and see until their time here is up, if not 'longer'...

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    I shall not speak on equating the female gender with 'Last Timers' (the proposed main topic).

    But other related/tangential stuff, like what I wrote above - yes.

    Hope I'm clearer now. Unless more psycho-semantical hairsplitting is deemed necessary

    All in good spirits

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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    Saying you shall not speak is speaking so you both failed. LOL.

    As the Grand Jester, I made you "LOL" and thus, did not fail.

    The most I will say, is that both males and females are "last timers" - for it is a matter of soul, more than physical gender. All things balance, even in the worlds to come, so it matters not where you are from, or where you are going, so long as you are.





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