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Thread: Récréations Hermétiques in English?

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    I'd have to say I'm one of those with less finances, and probably wouldn't pay more than $75 on any alchemy book, unless it was an out of print, 1000 copies available sort of thing that a dream-character told me I needed to buy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiorionis View Post
    I'd have to say I'm one of those with less finances, and probably wouldn't pay more than $75 on any alchemy book, unless it was an out of print, 1000 copies available sort of thing that a dream-character told me I needed to buy
    We were thinking more in the order of about $40 - $50. We have another project of an important work that could end up with up to about 500 pages which is already partly done. That one, obviously would be more in the $75 - $100 range because of the volume and amount of time to decipher the old handwriting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf View Post
    We were thinking more in the order of about $40 - $50. We have another project of an important work that could end up with up to about 500 pages which is already partly done. That one, obviously would be more in the $75 - $100 range because of the volume and amount of time to decipher the old handwriting.
    well, if you google the specialised publishers you find very often books in the 50-100 and even 200 $ range. the 200 $ books are often limited to 50 pcs and are bound in leather etc. so I think there are even collectors out there that just want nice pieces for their showcase library - like stamp collectors, who never ever enter a lab or do any alchemical research. and why not. but those customers should be satisfied too. and with the CF approach we could easily offer different level perks to patrons who invest 200 $ like a limited edition in leather. why not?

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    You could you draft it in a capable book format and pop it on amazon, they do publish books also. Cheaper I heard. Check out all the forgottenbooks.org publishes on there now. Cheap. Of course you can set you price above what it costs to pay for your time. Or just lock it with a pdf so it cannot be edited and accept PayPal or whatever for digital distribution of it. Everything turns to digital in long run. Think of rams collection.

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    Well, I'm not really into making a profit, just trying to recover costs and some of my time. The key is to be able to get the important material out to others at a reasonable price so they can also learn from it and hopefully engage in subsequent discussion. I never really was into "collector books", but I can see the attraction for others.

    The "Hermetic Receations" is a truly valuable book, and likely comes closer than any other alchemical book with regards to openly revealing almost the entire detailed process, step by step. It also defines many of the allegorical terms and phrases used by the sages, such as"Green Lion", "magnesia", "Hermetic Seal", "foliated earth", "Reign of Jupiter", "head of the raven", "Rebis", etc., etc. Thus it likely comes closer to an almost complete understanding of alchemy than any other book that I have come across (and I have read many). Not only that, but it comes packaged with an associated second treatise ("Scholium" or "Commentary") which succinctly provides all the key points in the first treatise, very concisely, point by point for 150 separate points. Most of these points provide very helpful clarification of the entire process. Almost the only thing missing is an open declaration of the starting matters.

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    well just sell the electronic copy for what you need to for you time into it. What ever you decide to do, I would like to either pay for it or donate to ya for a copy. Although i do agree "paper" books are what i would really have, I cannot go spending lots of money for one book. But I am really trying to gather a good hard copy collection for my retirement and i can spend my days enjoying my Land and reading the arts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psykopanther View Post
    well just sell the electronic copy for what you need to for you time into it
    I strongly advise against that. Going electronic from the start almost ensures that the copy will be "shared" if not outright uploaded for distribution.
    I did it once and ONE DAY LATER someone in the relevant forum announced proudly that he had cracked the amazon encryption (really a joke, any dunce can do it with calibre and one plugin) and if anyone wanted a copy. All in the open, there is not even a hint of shame anymore. the only way to avoid the entitled crowd is to a) print it hard copied and b) make it expensive because THOSE buyers usually know the value and wont just blindly share.

    I know it sounds hard, but that the reality today. Once we get rid of the banksters globally and live in a moneyless society I am all for sharing with everybody.

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    I'd say 40 or 50$, especially if it got you a paper copy, would be an okay sort of price. Sam is correct about the electronic copy. People writing say fiction can survive ebook pirating because it often leads to someone who enjoyed the work actually buying the next book for real, or else they sell enough copies to make up for the occaisional pirated one. Plus there are so many pirated books anyway you don't have time to read them all.

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    You could print two versions, one in fine leather, and one hardback.
    That way the collectors will pay way above normal, while others still get to acquire the knowledge. (it would have to be a good quality leather production to work)

    Some collectors would buy more than one copy of a leather limited copy, ESPECIALLY for something that has real knowledge, which will definitely be collectable, which you have.

    I regret not buying a leather version of Dwellings of the philosophers. My normal hardback is a prized possesion but a leather one would be be nice. Even the hardbacks are worth multiple of the original price.

    Anyway, I will be buying it regardless of the price

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. We haven't yet decided on how we will publish it (possibly Lulu?), but that decision will come quite soon. I just finished a final draft tonight, and my partner, who is extremely knowledgeable in alchemy (both theory and practice) will be reviewing it carefully to see if the language is consistent with alchemical practice. He's also preparing an Introduction.

    We are also looking into having a very respected long-term alchemist and author of important books/articles review it as well. We want to ensure that the translation is as true to the original language and intention as possible. It will never be perfect (what translation ever is?), but we hope that it will be as professional as possible. We have already gone over the text numerous times over the past 2 or 3 years, making corrections/improvements each time. This has been long in the making and not rushed.

    We hope you will find it as valuable and incredibly informative as we did.

    Illen

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