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    Smile A simple reflection...

    Between two opposites must be, necessarily an "intermediate", a thin barrier that limits both aspects of one thing (two sides of the same coin). It seems to me that it is possible that the separation barrier is not "sharp" but "flexible" in the point or line of contact of the opposite.

    Between black and white there is a gray area.
    Between the cold and heat, warmth.
    Between spirit and matter ... an intermediate area between the two, where perhaps, if we could have access to it or generate it somehow, would be in a position to access the spirit when it ceases to be spirit, and embodies or determined in the material World.

    And what if we catch him from that place before it materialize in our world, while still being Spirit, even?

    I think alchemy is "down" a piece of the realm of spirit to our material reality.
    This is literally stealing fire from heaven.

    So... we just have to know how to access to this place, or how can we create it.

    Greetings to all.

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    Hey Pierre,
    I am sorry but I am a bit confused, could you please explain what is it that you are talking about here?!
    Just because I'm ugly doesn't mean that I'm a witch and that I do bad things, I'm ugly of the toxins that had an affect on me wile trying to find a cure for your sorry ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilos View Post
    Hey Pierre,
    I am sorry but I am a bit confused, could you please explain what is it that you are talking about here?!
    Hello Ilos...
    I refer to being able to accede to this place or condition where the Spirit is for be specifying in our world even, and to be able to catch it without it contaminates entering to our "Universe". Precisely in the moment before that is specified towards some kingdom of the nature. I speak about the possibility of this thin line that separates our "World" of the Spiritual one, with the benefit that it can bring.

    Its just an idea that is about my mind...

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    Thank you Pierre, I understand you now better.
    I believe that there's a invisible force that holds physical form in its state of being and to understand the physical aspects of nature we should understand the microcosm of nature wile we learn about the macrocosm of the universe. We have to stay not just with our eyes open but also have an open minded and understand the spiritual force (life) how can affect our human microcosm and how it manifests in our physical form.
    Without energy there is no matter and for that the matter is the physical form that holds the energy and with the power of our will and the art of nature we can be constructive and creative with our imaginative intellect that rains from above into our soul to open our hearts and learn the truth and the connection that we posses as a whole.
    Just because I'm ugly doesn't mean that I'm a witch and that I do bad things, I'm ugly of the toxins that had an affect on me wile trying to find a cure for your sorry ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilos View Post
    Thank you Pierre, I understand you now better.
    I believe that there's a invisible force that holds physical form in its state of being and to understand the physical aspects of nature we should understand the microcosm of nature wile we learn about the macrocosm of the universe. We have to stay not just with our eyes open but also have an open minded and understand the spiritual force (life) how can affect our human microcosm and how it manifests in our physical form.
    Without energy there is no matter and for that the matter is the physical form that holds the energy and with the power of our will and the art of nature we can be constructive and creative with our imaginative intellect that rains from above into our soul to open our hearts and learn the truth and the connection that we posses as a whole.
    Wise words, Ilos, wise words ...

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    Thank you Pierre, I hope I was being related to your thought.
    Just because I'm ugly doesn't mean that I'm a witch and that I do bad things, I'm ugly of the toxins that had an affect on me wile trying to find a cure for your sorry ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pierre View Post
    Between two opposites must be, necessarily an "intermediate", a thin barrier that limits both aspects of one thing (two sides of the same coin). It seems to me that it is possible that the separation barrier is not "sharp" but "flexible" in the point or line of contact of the opposite.

    Between black and white there is a gray area.
    Between the cold and heat, warmth.
    Between spirit and matter ... an intermediate area between the two.

    So... we just have to know how to access to this place, or how can we create it.
    Hi pierre,

    Some would call this intermediary Soul.

    In between Spirit above and Body below we have Soul in the middle.
    Wonderful musings, pierre! Thank you for sharing!

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    Yes, Schmuldvich. It must be a suspended point. A breath held before the exhalation of life. A contained nothing filled with everything. Perhaps it is for our dual mind, a paradox, that is why it is so difficult for us to understand it.

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    Hi,
    it's a damn old thread, but somebody dug it up. I don't know if it's really still of interest (at least Pierre got in touch), but I'll answer here because I feel like it:

    I'm sorry, I must disagree with you Pierre. Even if it has a seductive romantic sound: the alchemist does not steal fire from heaven, he redeems it so that it can redeem him, stealing it would mean profaning and humiliating it, you understand?


    Well, for the alchemist there is no strict, Cartesian separation of spirit and matter, and thus no clear dividing line between them. So, the transition from one to the other does not happen suddenly, but very gradually. Sometimes something is still matter, but at the same time it is already spirit, or on the other hand, it is indeed still spirit, but also already matter. When we make spirit into matter, we also make matter into spirit, this process only takes place simultaneously and in both directions.

    No alchemist despises matter, because all matter is sacred to him, he recognizes in its center the hidden word, pure information, which flows incessantly from the source of the original spirit and fills the whole space from the upper to the lower, the whole space between spirit and soul or Yin and Yang. The alchemist calls this underlying stream the heavenly or astral spirit and compares it to a sea of glass in which two miraculous fishes swim. The ancient Chinese sages speak of the Dao (Tao), the essence of the primal spirit, experienced as being and life, invisibly contained in the light of the sky.


    It is the root of heaven and earth and there is nothing in this world that would not be a part of it, be it form, matter or energy. It fills the whole space like a holy, secret word and flows through us too, silently and softly, like a gentle, celestial and not burning fire. Together with the moonlight, it is reflected in the crackling white snow, wafts with the light wind over mountains and valleys, and of the morning, when the sun touches the horizon, it moistens the whole earth softly with the dew, comforting all creatures. Out of this being, this pure, living information, an unceasing language or divine message addressed to us, we hypostasize the whole experiential world. For all things only take shape in the eye of the beholder.

    But for any reason his revelation eludes us - either because we have lost the gift of right recognize, or because we have not yet found it (Buddha cites karmically conditioned ignorance as the cause, whereby knowledge can only be attained in riddance) - and through this process of perception we distort his actual being, profane his glory and hide it under an illusory outer shell. And it is precisely there, under this shell in its innermost core, where the pure, original essence of itself is hidden, that the alchemist seeks it and brings it out, in order to give it back its true form and divine attribute. But he cannot reach it in every matter without further ado, but only there, where he finds its inner being unmixed and completely pure.

    And because matter is sacred to the alchemist, and he knows that in its center lies hidden the key of all glories and all magnificence, he approaches it with reverence and submits to the wisdom that lives within it. As her devoted servant and loving friend, he finally accomplishes the work by leading her to marriage with the upper wisdom. This work is a sacred work, no matter what the Keepers of the confessions say about it, and that, my dear friends, is the core of it all, just this you need to bloody grasp!

    sl

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    Thank you for this Merovee.

    BTW. Your inbox is full

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