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    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto alchemist View Post
    Might you consider including a passage on how to actually ´ćorporify´ the spiritus mundi and hold it indefinately in a container.
    No.

    Please see what I wrote earlier:

    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    There will be of course no 'recipes', because every Alchemist I have ever met in my travels around the world is applying different methods/techniques, while still observing the very same principles. In other words, there are probably as many 'recipes' as there are Alchemists...
    This will be mainly about 'Hermetic Vision' and the Foundation/Laws of Genesis, Creation, Reality & Generation. It should (hopefully) add/change some insight and perspective about approaching the Practical Work, to each according to their own level of understanding and natural disposition.

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    It's basically a summary of what we've discussed in depth during our last few many-many-hour-long skype talks.. Only appropriately redacted for the public domain...

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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by thoth View Post
    I believe it is one of the most important threads on the forum (along with celestial agriculture)
    I agree!

    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    There will be of course no 'recipes', because every Alchemist I have ever met in my travels around the world is applying different methods/techniques, while still observing the very same principles. In other words, there are probably as many 'recipes' as there are Alchemists...
    There are different methods in a context of recipes, but the philosophical concept for a container is single and common for all ways, as well as it's procedia, and always related with salts.

    Androgynus my friend, just one post is enough to make clear your message

    Arrakis

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    There are different methods in a context of recipes, but the philosophical concept for a container is single and common for all ways, as well as it's procedia, and always related with salts.
    Not always, not always ...
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    The Hermetic Foundations Of Alchemy

    Preliminary Note: Please read the following with personal discernment and with a skeptical (but open) mind.
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    1. Origin: The Prime Paradox

    101. 'Origin' is rooted in Paradox. The Root 'is' No-Thing, but only a Virtual Continuum of Potential/Possibility, at the Extremes of which there are the Possibility of 'Nothing' and the Possibility of 'Everything'.

    102.
    All Possibility/Potential 'is' Virtual, Abstract and UN-Knowable.

    103
    . The Potential Differences/Tensions along the virtual Continuum and among the Infinity of Variations between Degrees of Possibility, balance themselves out, resulting in the 'Fixation' of The Point. This 'Fixation', however, is also in the Domain of Paradox, since IT is both fixed AND infinitely fluctuating between Potentials/Possibilities. Thus, IT simultaneously is & isn't, simultaneously dimensionless & infinite, simultaneously at absolute stillness & vibrating/fluctuating at an infinite rate.

    104.
    UN-Knowable, dimensionless, not anchored in Space & Time - the 'Point Of Origin' is 'All That Is'. It is 'Pure Being' and simultaneously 'All & Nothing'. It is often referred to as 'God', 'Creator', 'The All' and 'Universal Mind'.

    105.
    Since 'Universal Mind' is 'All That Is', there can 'be' no 'thing' that is NOT within 'Universal Mind'.

    106.
    The State of 'Being' is the Natural State of the Universal Mind, a state usually referred to as 'Meditation'.

    107.
    It is from this Objective & UN-Knowable Natural State of 'Being'/'Meditation', that the All/Infinite Mind thinks/imagines (within ITself) the progression of Subjective & Knowable 'Becoming'. This is accomplished by the Universal/Infinite Mind through Focusing Infinite Potential into its own Oppo-Same 'Polarity' of Zero Potential (Void/Nothingness/Emptiness). In other words, IT is having a Genesis Intercourse with ITself.

    108.
    So it 'begins' - the Subjectively Knowable Creation, which is always completely virtual 'inside' the Universal Mind and never 'external' to it, as there can be 'no-thing' outside 'All That Is'. There is no 'Big Bang', no 'outward' expansion (there is no 'out' of The All), only an inner Thought projection (imbibition ) of Mind upon ITself, paralleling the Alchemical Process.

    109.
    This 'Virtual Reality' Creation is a progression of 'Becoming' (as opposed to 'Being', which, lacking a Space/Time mental construct, cannot be a 'progression'), as it renders the necessary 'Phantasmagorias' which are 'known' as Subjectively Knowable Space, Time, Energy, Matter, etc...

    110.
    Neither 'Origin' (a.k.a. 'Creator') nor 'Creation' can be defined as 'THE Truth', as 'Truth' is also subject to the Polarity Continuum between Absolute and Realative . Any 'Truth' claimed to be of either Polarity is only a 'Half Truth', so to speak. The fundamental 'difference' between Origin/Absolute and Creation/Realative is that the latter is Knowable (a.k.a. 'Becoming'), while the former (a.k.a. 'Being') is not.

    Some Authors (Alchemical/Hermetic or otherwise) refer to the Knowable as the 'False Creation', while other Authors refer to the Dimensionless/Infinite Mind/Origin as 'Real Dimension'. Denying/dismissing the Relative Pole of 'Truth' is just as much folly as denying/dismissing its Absolute Oppo-Same. 'Truth', too, is a Continuum which needs to be embraced wholly. (So maybe think twice before claiming 'Absolute Truth' ...)
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    Next (coming soon):

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    The Nature of 'Spiritus Mundi' - The First Emanation - The Philosophical 'Heaven'

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    Note: The 'Origin' series will also be in My Blog Section.

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    Thank you for sharing Androgynus! I think many have been anticipating your overview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendritic Xylem View Post
    Thank you for sharing Androgynus! I think many have been anticipating your overview.
    And thank YOU for taking the time to read it... I am completely clueless about potential anticipations

    It's quite difficult to render it short and concentrated, but the good news is that this was the most challenging part to write & re-write & re-re-write

    As it will progress into the next sections, it will be more and more targeted towards Practical Alchemy, and I'm sure it will make more and more contextual sense, as it develops...

    Also, I'll say it again - please read with discernment and with an open but skeptical mind

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    Good post, looking forward to future parts. For now a quick question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    The State of 'Being' is the Natural State of the Universal Mind, a state usually referred to as 'Meditation'.
    As in to be in an altered state as well? Or is that unnatural. What is the 'real state'?

    Don’t let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    As in to be in an altered state as well? Or is that unnatural.
    'Altered States' that can be known/experienced in the Subjectively Knowable Creation, are all perfectly 'natural' for the time/space mental construct that we perceive/regard as 'real'.

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    What is the 'real state'?
    'Real' is Realative

    Within the Knowable, perception IS reality.

    All states of Becoming are 'Altered States', and they are all 'real' as they are perceived, given the subjective nature of the Knowable Creation (Becoming), a nature of perpetual/ongoing adjustments and agreements.

    On the 'other extreme' of the 'truth continuum', the 'Natural State' of Pure Being is a 'trademark' of Origin and therefore Objective & UN-Knowable, hence never fully achievable in the Subjectively Knowable Mental Construct/Progression of Becoming.

    Knowable/Subjective 'Altered States', while seemingly not available in Being ('Being' not being subject to Subjective Alterations, i.e. 'UN-Changing'), are nevertheless perfectly 'natural' (yet subjective) in the Virtual Reality construct/progression of Becoming, where 'Change' is actually a 'constant' of sorts... Arrrggghhh... Words don't come easy with this type of material...

    'Spiritus Mundi' (as will be suggested for consideration in future posts), while it originates in Being, it 'operates' in Becoming, as it is the 'Universal Motor' of the Subjectively Knowable Construct/Progression.
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    PS: As OP of this thread, I welcome on-topic input of a Philosophical nature, as long as it is remembered that the purpose (here) is to hopefully lead us to Greater Understanding followed by Practical Application.

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    Androgynus I really enjoyed your post and cannot begin to imagine how difficult it must be to put something like that into words that you can feel content with.

    It must be a subject close to the hearts of many as at the time of writing this there have been 82,030 views and 613 replies, which shows the difficulty of pinning down the subject matter.

    Edit: For those that may have already seen this post unedited I would like to give a short explanation of my reason for its deletion...I realised that what I wrote continued with the context which has drawn out this thread to the size it is and that it detracted from what Androgynus is attempting to do which is to bring it into a perspective we may all understand...

    I look forward to part 2 thank you Androgynus.

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    Last edited by Ghislain; 04-22-2014 at 02:47 PM.

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