My honest opinion is that the stone can't transmute both ways. It is either fission stone or fusion stone.
Formerly known as True Puffer
If the stone can turn all base metals into gold...then it may not be directly adding/subtracting protons/neutrons.
Let's pretend that all matter has an ethereal component which the Alchemists would call "spiritual".
This spiritual body exists in the same space as the material body which it occupies.
What if the spiritual body determines the blueprint of the material body?
The physical body just being a condensed material representation of the ethereal/spiritual body.
It could explain how/why a substance like the Stone could create gold from numerous metals.
You mix gold with Mercurius to obtain the 'blueprint' of gold. Then cook it and make stronger.
The spiritual blueprint of gold is fixed into the matter. Then the matter is used to imprint onto other metals.
Doesn't sound very scientific, but I really don't know how a tiny amount of an exotic substance could transmute numerous elements, specifically to gold, by adding or subtracting nucleons.
It doesn't make sense why the stone should transmute numerous elements into Gold. Most of the recipes talk about mercury into gold or lead into gold. The other big problem is that of mass. The Stone is supposed to weigh much more than Gold which means that the starting matter must have been beyond gold and lead on the periodic table probably somewhere around or after uranium.
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...aviest-natura/
The other interesting detail is multiplication in projection by the power of 10 by repetition. If fission is the cause of transmutation then multiplication process is what we today call nuclear enrichment.
Our Sulfur?
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Last edited by True Initiate; 03-04-2018 at 03:16 AM.
Formerly known as True Puffer
But does it make sense that the stone would transmute via conventional fission/fusion?
How can a few grains of stone transmute many grams (kilos?) of gold through direct nuclear process?
Wouldn't there need to be more mass present to provide the required nuclear particles?
Of course, this is all assuming the alchemical transmutation stories from history are true. Who knows.
The quantity depends on it's enrichment. More radioactive it is the more will it transmute. The first stone doesn't transmute at all, it was called the false prophet.
Another interesting clue. After the stone is sufficiently enriched or multiplied it exhibits certain pyrophoric characteristics. Glows in the dark like burning ember or firestone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrophoricity
Last edited by True Initiate; 03-04-2018 at 03:19 AM.
Formerly known as True Puffer
You can't get heavier than this:
http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...aviest-natura/
Formerly known as True Puffer
I am neither rich nor poor, I am just an average person, so I know very well how the average person thinks and feels, and I tell you that nobody in his right mind would quit transmuting metals into silver & gold if they had the Stone in their possession. Life constantly demands money, whether you like it or not, it is a fact. So, the Stone would come very handy in helping improve the quality of life for anyone fortunate enough to possess it. That's the real reason all seekers wanted it in the first place, they certainly did not spend so much time and money investigating how to make it just so that they could sit around doing nothing with it once they had found it.
PS: my "face" in the forums is a detector of baloney, not the baloney itself, but yours is a thing that is well known to grow out of rotting matter.![]()
You are of course assuming that the methods of the physicists are the only ones that can give results. Wrongo! I have made small amounts of silver and gold through "chymical" processes and I don't see where any of these humongous amounts of energy that the methods of the physicists require are supposedly absolutely necessary to accomplish transmutation. By entertaining the notions and theories of physics as the only possibility, you are in fact falling for the same mistake that the chemists have fallen, who think that "chemical reactions" cannot accomplish what the methods of physics can, and therefore conclude that transmutation, short of having recourse to "atom-smashers", is "impossible".
Regarding how the alchemists themselves envisioned transmutation as happening, there were two basic types:
1- The ones who saw it as the effect of the Stone on the "sulphurs" & "mercuries" of the base metals, altering them and becoming "purified" like those of silver & gold
2- The ones who held "corpuscular" notions and held that the red Stone must force the "parts" (i.e. the particles) of other metals to "contract" (i.e. to come closer together) and acquire the density of gold (besides its color and other characteristics), and the white Stone also forcing less dense metals, like tin, to contract and acquire the density (and other properties) of silver, while at the same time it forced the "parts" of more dense metals, like lead or mercury, to expand until they acquired the density (and other properties) of silver
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