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    Does past, present and future all exist right here now, simultaneously occurring but in different layers of space?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    Don't let the delusion that reality is supposedly a delusion confuse you regarding the reality of reality. If not, then put your beliefs to the test by jumping off of the top of a tall building, as suggested above. My "prediction" based on that reality: 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure you will die.
    Your reply is like reading a reply to a comment about horses, but your reply has to do with ice cream.

    I'm sorry, but you clearly do not understand the phrase and I shall not explain it any further. Let's call it a secret.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    Does past, present and future all exist right here now, simultaneously occurring but in different layers of space?
    There is only the now... although the future has already happened.

    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awani View Post
    Your reply is like reading a reply to a comment about horses, but your reply has to do with ice cream.

    I'm sorry, but you clearly do not understand the phrase and I shall not explain it any further. Let's call it a secret.
    I beg to differ. The reply gets straight to the point, it does not beat around the bush. And we all know that the reason why all proponents of this absurd claim refuse to put their money where their mouths are is precisely because they know that reality is very real, and if they ever did such a crazy thing as jumping off of a building or cliff the outcome would be very predictable, which would not be the case if "reality is a delusion".

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    You are missing the point I made, and as I said I am not explaining it any further.

    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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    "People cannot be talked out of illusions." - Alan Watts

    One could even say; you cannot talk yourself out of an illusion.

    Direct experience is the only way. That is the Game. Who in their right mind turn on a Playstation, pop in a game and sit back and watch the start screen... and never picking up the controller? No one.

    Yet in life, many do.



    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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    If everything is an eternal dream, everything is part of the dream... and even if the dreamer and the dream is the same... then we can still have a Big Bang. Because the Big Bang is part of the dream.

    We can wake up from a dream within the dream, but we can never wake up from The Dream. We (not we as in Awani or you... but we as in anything that ever was)... we ARE the dream.

    Waking up would mean the end of everything. Suicide. Stay asleep!

    But wake up from "this" dream... in other words keep dreaming, but make it a lucid dream.

    That's my outlook currently...

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    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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    You can jump off a cliff, many people do it often, and as long as you follow the rules (the recipe) then
    99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time you can survive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghislain View Post
    You can jump off a cliff, many people do it often, and as long as you follow the rules (the recipe) then
    99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time you can survive.

    Nope, that's CHEATING the "experiment" designed to test these "reality of illusion" kooky theories. You are using a very real and tangible artificial device designed to be able to survive the 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure chance of death that such an action will bring forth, not the supposed Jedi-like powers of your mind. You might as well show us a picture of people bungee jumping. CHEATING!

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    The story of the World War II gunner who fell 22,000 feet without a parachute and lived

    Vesna Vulovic, stewardess who survived 33,000ft fall

    The man who fell 12,000 ft ... and survived

    Skydiver survives 14,000 foot fall after his parachute and backup BOTH fail


    It doesn't happen often, but it happens enough.

    Luck, "god" listening to prayer... who knows... but NOTHING is set in stone... not even "sure death".

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    However the debate about "jumping off a cliff" is a clear indication that you do not understand what is being discussed, nor will you ever unless you clear your mind from play school arguments. We are talking about something deeper, mystical and mind altering... not about jumping off a cliff. It would be like I was trying to tell you that alchemy is bullshit, because it is just chemistry for pseudo-chemists... which in many cases it is.

    When people want to discuss ONE matter you jump in with your ideas. When people want to discuss the concepts of reality you jump in with your "jump off the cliff" angle.

    Focus on your thing, and let others focus on theirs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awani View Post
    If everything is an eternal dream, everything is part of the dream... and even if the dreamer and the dream is the same... then we can still have a Big Bang. Because the Big Bang is part of the dream.

    We can wake up from a dream within the dream, but we can never wake up from The Dream. We (not we as in Awani or you... but we as in anything that ever was)... we ARE the dream.

    Waking up would mean the end of everything. Suicide. Stay asleep!

    But wake up from "this" dream... in other words keep dreaming, but make it a lucid dream.

    That's my outlook currently...
    Why don't you give your spin on the above quote instead, and refrain from "jumping off cliff" arguments if you can.

    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.

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