How to do psychedelics?

[elixirmixer]

HAHAHAHA... I just love the... "Although, use stealth at all times" bit... fucking crack up...

[Awani]

Are there any reports of permanent psychosis or other bad permanent effects?

Not if you extract properly. I found that drinking a lot of water before hand in order to keep myself hydrated took away the slight "hangover" I had afterwards. Your muscles might ache a bit too (which the water helped with). Finally, for some reason, it makes me want to take a shit. Even when I just think about doing it.

I am sure some people have had psychosis from doing psychedelics, but that "fear" mostly comes from government scare propagandha.

Dr. Leary once said (and I paraphrase): "LSD can cause psychotic behaviour in people who have NOT taken it."

You'll be fine... especially if you follow all the advice I provided (especiallly having a sitter and be in a safe "good vibe" environment).

...going with a HCL, then NaOH, then ether... sound good?

Naptha is what we've used - in our fantasy - (not ether). From what I understand both work, but bigger chance to have impurities with the ether... anyway no experience with it. Only with Naptha.

We did not use HCL.



Did this quick, sure it can be improved (I'm not lab guy)... seems to fit.

Calcination
Heat the vinegar and the water

Dissolution
Dissolve the salt.

Separation
Filter the salt water.

Conjunction
Add the Sodium Hydroxide.

Fermentation
Mix/stir and let it sit.

Distillation
Extract the yellow liquid (the naphtha).

Coagulation
The naphtha evaporates. The DMT crystals are formed.

And this you have the true “powder of the sun”!

[elixirmixer]

I have two questions...

I know you have had Andro's proffesional shamanic guidance before while undertaking a re-enactment of a dmt experience.... Did he happen to mention, which 'realm' or 'plane' he believed you guys to be visiting???

The other question... is... can these entities be aggressive? and if yes, whats the plan in regard to dealing with that???

[Andro]

I know you have had Andro's professional shamanic guidance

I didn't provide any 'guidance' when there were group situations in which I was present. I was just the 'sitter'.

Dev is much better qualified to give DMT/psychedelic guidance, at least the basic framework, especially as I personally do not use psychedelics at all.

[Awani]

I know you have had Andro's proffesional shamanic guidance before while undertaking a re-enactment of a dmt experience...

I must admit that the profund DMT journeys I've done have not been in his presence at all. This is because when he was present there was a group of people I felt responsible for... so I did a very weak journey on purpose for this reason.

Also it is so short that I doubt he had time to do much... I think you might more mean the six hour Magic Truffles ceremonies of the past that he used his shamanic tech for (perhaps).

Well... I cannot speak for him. LOL. You'd better wait for his reply.

EDIT: oh he already replied

Did he happen to mention, which 'realm' or 'plane' he believed you guys to be visiting???

What realm? You tell me (later).

...can these entities be aggressive? and if yes, whats the plan in regard to dealing with that???

No, I don't have such an experience. I mean it can be scary... but I guess you mean if they are "bad"... no.

Regardless even if they are, there is not much you can do about it, but wait till its over. LOL.

I do have a tip. If you see something scary ask: "Are you the medicine?"

If it doesn't go away it's fine. If it goes away it isn't... but then it goes away.

[elixirmixer]

I do have a tip. If you see something scary ask: "Are you the medicine?"

AHAHAHAHAHA.....

I didn't provide any 'guidance' when there were group situations in which I was present.

My apologise... I have misread.

Nevertheless, do you Andro, have an opinion about where these trips take us?? Do you, Andro, have tips of how to prepare the mind for a journey of this Excalibur?
Do you have some type of philosophical understanding that may describe what is happening to people who partake in such things as these?

[elixirmixer]

Dev, can you talk, move, breathe ect... when scattered on the other side of the universe?

[elixirmixer]

Is there any choice factor at all? Can I say... slide down this waterfall of mad colours, or take a dip over there in pulsating light pool... ect... or is it more of a "Keep your hands inside the cart at all times and do not leave the capsule until the ride is over" type situation.

Im assuming its more of the 'ride' allegory.

[Awani]

Dev, can you talk, move, breathe ect... when scattered on the other side of the universe?

LOL. Well in my strongest experience I had no body. I was pure consciousness so I could not move, talk or breathe. It was very scary, but awesome. When you dissolve utterly from the physical realm it is very profound. Especially when you realise that in the realm you have entered you are NOT alone.

Is there any choice factor at all? Can I say... slide down this waterfall of mad colours, or take a dip over there in pulsating light pool... ect... or is it more of a "Keep your hands inside the cart at all times and do not leave the capsule until the ride is over" type situation.

Im assuming its more of the 'ride' allegory.

Try and sit still. Breathe slow. Stay calm. Don't think or analyse. Just "be" in the moment. Try and open your heart.

In a way the ride allegory is true.

But if all you experience are geometrical patterns you have not broken through. I have only broken through (on smokeable DMT) once... and that is about 8 months ago and I have not been back. Still suffering from the implications of that expereince (in a good way). I usually do a ceremony during Easter... perfect time to resurrect. So I'm going back... soon. LOL.

The only choice you have is to EMBRACE it or FEAR it. If you choose the latter path you will suffer. If you choose the former you wil soar.

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If you fail on your first smoke, be sure to wait at least 30 minutes before you try again in order to make sure you start at base level. There are no rules, but I would say do no more than three attempts in one evening. Each attempt from start to finish would be 30 minutes = total 90 minutes or so.

Don't be greedy. Let whatever happened sink in for a few days, at least, before you try again.

If you do break through properly you might never do it again. Ha ha.

[Andro]

Nevertheless, do you Andro, have an opinion about where these trips take us? Do you, Andro, have tips of how to prepare the mind for a journey of this Excalibur?
Do you have some type of philosophical understanding that may describe what is happening to people who partake in such things as these?

I don't use psychedelics of any kind to access 'altered states', nor have I ever - so I am not qualified to reply to any of this.

Ask those who are actually using this tool. Dev has already provided what seems to be a useful general overview.