I have no objection if somebody wants to pursue Alchemy as a celibate. However, for their own benefit I think they ought to do so reasons that apply to them and that produces results for them. First what is the purpose of Alchemy? I have known people pursuing Alchemy via all sorts of methods. Some don't appear to have learned anything about the nature of this creation or how to get around in it or how to do much of anything of use the themselves or others. If as Haule says that Alchemy is about building the soul, and I agree most fully, the "rules" are the rules of the Cosmic Operating System or whatever else one wishes to call it. Cultural rules, made to create an illusion, keeping people who would kill you and all your associates chasing their fantasies instead of doing much worse things. You listen to 100 different tantric alchemists you get 100 different stories. "Every monk his (or her) own doctrine". So Ramakrishna, clearly severely b12 deficient, learned a celibate tantra. He may have literally been incapable of a non celibate tantra.
If I were writing a personal alchemical diary to detail my experiments and trials, and I was in a dangerous environment wherein my own writings if found would be used against me, would certainly be in my own shorthand as were. Maybe I would use reversals of meaning to hide anything that would have me burned at the stake. Everything would have to be written to not be heresy so I would have to adopt the local terminology with my own meanings. I do have a few memories of a very unpleasant burning and the long burning anger that started. I don't have to pretend to be anything in particular to be left alone these days. A long time ago I decided on a form that doesn't require any "hardware". It is so inborn in me now that I remembered starting in 3rd grade.
So as far as being "celibate" there are those who say it and do it. There are those who say one thing and mean a different thing. There are those purposefully misleading, making a mask for protection. Which are which? Which are combinations. Which are written for ones self with remembered keys to understanding. There are those reading and parroting what others have written having no idea how many layers deep the veiled, reversed and hidden meanings might be stacked merely add to the misunderstanding. There are lots of things that are written that exude meaning at the level of understanding that the reader has. Also, direct meanings may not what a person may interpret.
A few years back Clinton got into trouble over a blowjob and he said "I did not have sex with that woman" According to the meaning of "have sex with" of more than half the people in this country he didn't. I know plenty of local Mormons who remain celibate before marriage doing everything except intercourse, "having sex with". When I grew up there was necking, petting and "having sex with" which was the only non celibate, and "forbidden" thing. So living Yoni puja and Linga puja are quite doable while remaining celibate. It is known and documented that Ramakrishna, a devotee of Shiva, did a living linga puja frequently if not daily. This has been relatively hidden through the years with the assumption that it would be misunderstood, perhaps especially in a puritanical society such as England of the period and the USA. Ramakrishna practiced a celibate Tantra. That may not be what some would think of as celibate. So be careful in what meaning is applied to many words, especially ones with many possible meanings without even any intention of misleading as such.
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Originally Posted by Axismundi000
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