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    DMT Report

    We have an Ayahuasca report thread as well as an Iboga report thread... so why not one about smokable DMT?

    All stories in this thread is about SWIM.

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    Easter Resurrection Ceremony

    Due to personal sorrow/despair a lot of the healing I had gained - during my last visit/initiation with Ayahuasca in Peru - was lost... and I don't have the time or means to travel to Peru at the moment so I decided to smoke DMT in order to re-connect with the healing and wisdom of my initiations in the Amazon. I have had the DMT for about a month... so I have really been looking forward to it.

    What better time than Easter to start this work in a ritual format.


    First Ceremony

    I had decided to do my first ceremony inside because I wanted to test the medicine in a more safe environment. Because the most part of our house is being renovated our space is limited. We have a pretty big bathroom (we even have a small seating area in there) so that is where I decided to have my first ceremony.

    I did it three times increasing the dosage each time. It went well and the funny thing is that "the trip" was toilet themed. All the creatures I met carried buckets, mops and other tools of toilets. So it was pretty funny.

    That night I went to bed extremely cold... I gained a fever (I checked so I know it is not imagined). I am never sick.

    I honestly think I was going through a purge brought on by the instructions given to my body when my mind was in a higher state. The next day the fever/illness was gone.

    And I rested for another day before the next ceremony.


    Second Ceremony

    I did this one outside at night, amongst the trees. It was a calm evening. I had a wonderful experience. I smoked two times. At the end of the experience I remained seated and listened to a few more icaros (healing songs) just out of pleasure and suddenly I began crying. I cried violently for a long time.

    Another purge, this time I was purging with tears and snot.

    I rested another day before the last and final ceremony.


    Third Ceremony

    It was a starry night. So beautiful. I had an excellent journey although brief. It was the culmination of the wisdom and mostly "strength" that I have been given... it was a final nail in the coffin for what I needed to feel and know.

    I felt that all those things that had deteriorated was now restored.

    I only smoked one time.


    Closing remarks

    I have not written so much about the actual "journey" or the "visions" because when you smoke DMT it all happens so fast... not only that it is impossible to put into words so it is better to just let it be. If you wonder what it is like there is a pretty easy way for you to find that out.

    It was wonderful to do it in the forest. The shamans and spirits of the natural world always come forth and surround me. Love it.

    What I really think is interesting is that it works. If you use these sacred substances with the right intention and techniques true magic happens (see The Importance of Ritual ). I did not expect to go through so much after each ceremony as I did.

    When smoking DMT it also has a funny way of making me want to take a shit... it usually happens as soon as the idea is formed that "soon I will smoke". Everytime. So weird. Shitting is also a purge.

    In the Amazon many folks don't use the name Ayahuasca, they call it La Purga (The Purge).




    Extra information

    I noticed a headache after the first ceremony (and I have noticed this on previous smoked DMT occasions). So I started each ceremony after that by drinking two glasses of water and I did not suffer any headaches anymore. So be extra hydrated when smoking DMT in my humble experience.

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    When smoking DMT it also has a funny way of making me want to take a shit... it usually happens as soon as the idea is formed that "soon I will smoke". Everytime. So weird. Shitting is also a purge.
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    Dev I have noticed this too, I couldn't understand how my body knows beforehand, it's good to get an affirmation that I'm not mad from another source

    I have not been doing the DMT in ritual as most of the time I am just trying out a new batch, but I find I have had the same experience each time and this is that everything around me is replaced with pristine new items...it is really surreal as I know these items and they are far from new. It doesn't matter how close an inspection I give them they are perfect.

    This experience was inside, so I wondered what it would look like outside. The whole place looked like a Lego town...you have to see it to understand.

    I think it shows I really need the ritual.
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    I have also noticed that when the "journey" is over and I turn on the light, or go back into the house, everything is sharper. I wear glasses but I don't need them for 5 minutes after the "trip". Everything is clear and sharp. Perhaps this is a substance that should be investigated by science to cure bad eye sight?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    Perhaps this is a substance that should be investigated by science to cure bad eye sight?
    Or perhaps we just leave science out of it and learn to produce it internally in our brains, constantly and (eventually) autonomously ... so that the lucid-dreamlike nature of perceived reality becomes more flexible to us, even all the way 'down' to the 'slow' physical vibration... Theoretically, if we 'wake up' while physically awake, we can fly... and the 'sky' is not the limit, but only the beginning!

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    I am never sick.
    It is claimed by some schools of thought that occasionally 'getting sick' is actually a mechanism of the body to heal itself.

    If you just naturally never get sick, I guess it's fine... But I would think/theorize that if we actively resist occasionally getting a bit sick (mentally, supplements, etc...) we could be delaying a 'bigger sickness' that would otherwise be released in 'low dosages' with every little cold we get, when our immune systems get something to practice on and get stronger. Just a theory...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    Or perhaps we just leave science out of it and learn to produce it internally in our brains, constantly and (eventually) autonomously ... so that the lucid-dreamlike nature of perceived reality becomes more flexible to us, even all the way 'down' to the 'slow' physical vibration... Theoretically, if we 'wake up' while physically awake, we can fly... and the 'sky' is not the limit, but only the beginning!
    I am talking about an easy possible "cure" for normal poor uneducated folks enslaved in the factory rat race. Not someone on a shamanic spiritual path of illusionary-reality mastery. Your above statement is what is the best future, but Utopia is usually a Dystopia. I only agree with what you said on an individual level, but the science statement was meant for everyone - and in this case I do not agree. What you say is simply probably not possible... ever!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    What you say is simply probably not possible... ever!
    Quoth Justin Bieber (your favorite!):

    "I will never say never" ♫♪♬...
    But yes, science recognizing its medicinal uses would be a nice step... Like what is happening with Medical Cannabis these days... so it's not THAT far-fetched...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    It is claimed by some schools of thought that occasionally 'getting sick' is actually a mechanism of the body to heal itself.

    If you just naturally never get sick, I guess it's fine... But I would think/theorize that if we actively resist occasionally getting a bit sick (mentally, supplements, etc...) we could be delaying a 'bigger sickness' that would otherwise be released in 'low dosages' with every little cold we get, when our immune systems get something to practice on and get stronger. Just a theory...
    In theory I agree, but - speaking from direct experience only - it seems people who get a "bigger" sickness have usually been "sick" all their lives. Getting the flu or the cold (or even a fever) several times a year is a sign for me of a weak body. I like to view this "getting sick" as purging, and this I do on a fairly regular basis (almost every year). Add to that when I do "feel" I am about to get sick it usually is expelled through a cold sore.

    Although I am sure I will get a BIG sickness one day. Anything else would be ridiculous. It is also better to live a life "free of easily avoidable suffering" like getting sick, and go out with a big cancer bang... rather than the opposite. But I see these people who "release small dosages" of this "big" disease every day at work. These people are not going to avoid something in the future. They are weak and will live their life in such a weak way till they die.

    In shamanic tradition you start sick and end healed. And in-between you Purge.



    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    I am never sick.
    The reason I stated this was to prove that the "magic" of the ceremony worked. It triggered a Purge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    Although I am sure I will get a BIG sickness one day. Anything else would be ridiculous [...] go out with a big cancer bang...
    I detect a flair for the dramatic that I really didn't suspect was there... Welcome to the club!

    BTW, cancer is also said to be a healing mechanism, when the more minor ones have not succeeded... and you can also heal cancer with Aya... so you're fucked... you're gonna live forever

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    But I see these people who "release small dosages" of this "big" disease every day at work. These people are not going to avoid something in the future. They are weak and will live their life in such a weak way till they die.
    I know people who are 'sick' all the time until they die in their late 90's... And health freaks who die from heart attacks in their 30's in the middle of jogging

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    In shamanic tradition you start sick and end healed. And in-between you Purge.
    I wonder if this applies to the Universe/Creation as well
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    I thought about what I wrote before on this thread...

    If we manage to 'wake up' from the dream of being physically awake WHILE being 'physically awake', we have no need for any elixirs or preparations, not even 'The Philosopher's Stone'.

    What if AWAKENING means just that? Just simply 'waking up'... nothing more...

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    The Stone is not physical. IMO. So yes.

    But it is very difficult. Imagine playing a videogame with split screen (car racing) and manage to drive the car looking at both screens at the same time. Or imagine driving a real car wearing a VR headset at the same time.

    There has to be some high level of skill to be able to see both worlds at the same time and not be screwed.

    I consider myself awake, and I am aware of the "two worlds" all the time but my attention is only in one of them at any given moment (unless I need to do some temporary magic a la mind control or telepathy etc). To be fully into both at the same time would be difficult.

    I also think it is a waste of time. We are in this world for a reason. If we keep looking at what is around the corner we loose the power of now, which is a wonderful state to be in. A vacation to other realms is healthy, but to long for it is not healtht I don't think.

    It's like slavery. It is easier to escape enslavement if one first embrace it.

    It is like you say, "drink the wine..." it goes for the self as well.

    Simple life is the highest form. Eat, sleep, love, shit, die. That is it. No need for anything else. To find peace in that simplicity is true power. There is a high form of bliss in animals. They (as far as I know) lack worry, stress and time. In a sense we might have to be a human before we can be animal.

    Just simply 'waking up'... nothing more...
    Anyway in conclusion yes it is that simple (as waking up). In fact in my experience true magic, wisdom and truth of the universe and alchemy etc is all extremly simple.

    Only humans need a meeting and the invention of language so the meeting can be written down, so people don't shit in the water they need to drink.

    We have perfected the art of making things complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    Imagine playing a video game with split screen (car racing) and manage to drive the car looking at both screens at the same time.
    Or imagine driving a real car wearing a VR headset at the same time.
    This is not what I'm talking about (split perception).

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    There has to be some high level of skill to be able to see both worlds at the same time and not be screwed. [...] I am aware of the "two worlds" all the time.
    I'm not talking about two worlds, or one, or any. They're all dream worlds. I'm talking about 'waking up'. I haven't expressed myself well enough in the previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    A vacation to other realms is healthy.
    I'm not talking about other realms either. Eventually, they're all just more of the same, if one transcends perception of form.

    Quote Originally Posted by dev View Post
    We are in this world for a reason.
    I agree. But we might have somewhat different perspectives on what that reason may be

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