DMT Report

[Awani]

I know what you are talking about, but the reason I use "two worlds", "realms" and such language is because it is hard to explain which "thing" I am talking about.

Waking up is death.

Not the physical death that we will meet one day. But the true death.

[Salazius]

It is a good thing you made tests before the Amsterdam Meeting.
It seems very powerful.

[Ghislain]

It is a good thing you made tests before the Amsterdam Meeting.
It seems very powerful.

Yes I can agree with that

There can only be one primary reality...a little bit of an oxymoron as saying only one and primary suggests a secondary.

I believe the true reality can only be found in the quantum world as beyond this the complexity is too great.

The explanation of the big bang scientist expound the presence of intense heat at this point in time, but in relation to what? The suns rays are not hot until they fall upon an object.
The space between us and the sun is extremely cold, devoid of heat.

I would reconsider that phenomena in the big bang to be the presence of the vast quantity of quantum particles ready to create the Universe as we perceive it. The data could easily be transmitted using quantum entanglement.

The matter it produces is just a memory state like the storage medium in any computer...as our bodies are just this we are aware of the other memory that is stored.
I.E. an apple, a mountain, water...etc.

I believe that the film "Tron" is closer to the truth than most would like to think.

DMT gives you a glimpse of this nature IMO at this present moment.

Ghislain

[Awani]

It is a good thing you made tests before the Amsterdam Meeting.
It seems very powerful.

Yes. I take this stuff very seriously. Society life is the joke. Lol.

Yes Tron is spot on. God is the "user".

[Awani]

Yesterday was Bicycle Day, it was also kind of a full moon. For me the days before (and the days after) a full moon are just as powerful as the actual day. So I decided to perform a little ceremony.

So far all the DMT smoking ceremonies I have done have all been great, and somewhat weak. Even when they were strong, they still were weak. All I needed to do was open my eyes, and behind the "realm" I could easily see where I "really" was. And at no time... not even on Iboga or Ayahuasca... have I ever not been aware of where my physical body is. Even the time on ayahuasca when I thought I had died I could still see and touch my body (I just thought I touched and saw it as a ghost).

But last night something very novel (for me) happened. And I blame it on the Moon. Everytime I do a psychedelic ceremony in conjunction with the full moon things always go dark, deep or become extremely intense. Last night was no different.

It is as usual hard to put into language, but basically I lost my physical self. I lost where I was. Eyes open. Eyes closed. No difference. My conscious mind was 100 % completely detached from my body... and my body was nowhere to be found. This of course caused me a bit of panic. I had not expected this to happen. And as I have learned through the years: what can you really expect?

I knew that I must focus, silence my mind and not panic... but anyone who has been in a similar situation knows that that is easier said than done when the word "panic" has entered the mind.

On my right side a sort of being/creature was working on me in what - to me - seemed like some shamanic movements. I knew I was having a complete boundary dissolving experience. A leaving the body experience. I could not tell even if I was breathing or not.

I was sitting outside, and I couldn't even tell if I was outside or inside. I had crossed over fully.

I desperately tried to find something to hang on to. To ground me. There were sacred medicine songs playing in the background, but I couldn't even hear them. As if I had no body, no nose, no eyes... nothing. I was pure spirit. I recall trying to touch my body and feeling nothing there. Not even sure I had made my arms move.

It felt like forever. I knew the journey is brief. But it did not feel brief at all.

Although I was having, what might sound like a "bad" trip (there is no such thing), it was an amazing experience. Even whilst I was having it I knew that I had broken through, and that I had caved in for not only amazement but from shock. I also knew that this would be over soon.

But just as it is difficult to question the reality we are in now, difficult to question that it is not real and permanent... just as difficult was it for me to question this "other" realm I found myself in. It was so real. It was beautiful. It was wonderful. I just had problem coping with the complete loss of my physical self.

Finally I found my water bottle. Ah... an "object"... I started to land. To come back down... re-enter our realm. I started to gag, as if I was going to vomit. I had just climbed of a very intense roller coaster... but eventually I didn't vomit.

Then I sat for a while thinking, still tripping... but much more mild. I was back in my body. I saw some more things of personal importance. And the forest and the moon looked beautiful.

Truly a Bicycle Day to remember!

Next time I am in this situation I will not panic. I am certain. You see practice makes perfect, and now when I know what it feels to not have a body it will be much easier to experience this again. In fact I look forward to it!

[JinRaTensei]

wow how awesome! since I am a absolute novice I won´t even try to have any insight to your experience but am looking forward hearing from your future advances and if with training you really are able to "cross over" more completely,I believe so.
Just a little sidenote, probably no connection and the time will mostly not overlap but you didn´t happen to have that experience around 21:30-22:00 pm? was watching the moon in the darkness of a forest and had the strange thought that dev maybe right now is visiting a dreamstate and finding the answer towards his childhood pan/faun meeting.strange thought in the sense that I was thinking about completely other things ^^

[Awani]

LOL it was about midnight, but mentally I was already starting the ceremony.

I have broken through many times before, but I always had my body with me. That was the major difference this time.

[Andro]

My conscious mind was 100 % completely detached from my body... and my body was nowhere to be found.

Good riddance

This of course caused me a bit of panic.

I had lots of panic during my first body-less explorations around age 22, especially the panic of not being able to return to the body. I eventually discovered that thinking about moving a physical part of the (physical) body would 'snap' me back into the body instantly. Ironically perhaps, the body part that work best for this is the Big Toe. Imagine moving your physical Big Toe and you'll be back in the body in a split second. It's an almost fail-safe method, but I have no idea if it would work when/if taking an auxiliary substance to induce the state. Maybe you could try it...

Oh, have I just done the 'Leo' thing, saying 'how it is for me'? LOL

I was back in my body.

My sincere condolences

Truly a Bicycle Day to remember!

[Awani]

saying 'how it is for me'?

Well what else can one really say?

[Awani]

On the 28th of May [today] 1963, Timothy Leary's associate Richard Alpert (now Ram Dass) was fired from Harvard for breaking one of the restrictions placed onto his research there: that he not provide psychedelics to undergraduates.

I had already decided to perform a ceremony tonight... and I noticed the above in my Facebook feed earlier today. The planets align. LOL.

And just by posting this post I feel I need to take a shit... it's so weird...

When smoking DMT it also has a funny way of making me want to take a shit... it usually happens as soon as the idea is formed that "soon I will smoke". Everytime.

I have noticed this too, I couldn't understand how my body knows beforehand, it's good to get an affirmation that I'm not mad from another source...