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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    Gravity can be observed without the need of mass because it bends light...
    ...you touched upon it but gravity also bends time... so I wonder if it bends consciousness...

    We might have a sort of law regarding gravity, but we cannot claim we understand gravity. I wonder if psychedelics have a sort of gravitational pull since it bends the mind. Just a few minutes ago I was listening to a talk by Terence McKenna where he put forth the idea that the mind is folded within the brain (it takes the shape of its container), and with psychedelics the mind unfolds. That is also one plausible explanation...

    If "immaterial" things like time and light can bend, then why not the mind as well?

    Can psychedelics generate gravity?

    The planets are in a preserved angular momentum (think it is called that), and they roll around our sun due to its gravitational pull... and because there is no friction in space, and because the planets are so big it seems like this is going to go on forever. It won't. At some point the Moon is going to reach escape velocity. If a large enough object collides with a planet, the planet can change course... it can get a push to reach escape velocity.

    Our mind seems to be made up of thoughts that are also in preserved angular momentum (volumes of philosophical books could be written about this). If the right ingredient is placed within the mind be it trauma or psychedelics or other, then our thoughts can reach escape velocity.

    Perhaps the debate is not if gravity exists or not.

    Perhaps the debate is what is not gravity?

    Perhaps that is the only thing that exists?

    Perhaps gravity is the felt and visible energy of God itself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    Gravity can be observed without the need of mass because it bends light if the warping is extreme enough. Extreme warping of space/time must occur around the jets of a quasar and this should be observable by the bending of light rays around the jets. Severe time distortions would also occur around these jets due to their enormous energy density.

    The more massive an object is the grater the coherence of the vacuum energy around that mass thus the grater the gravitational effect...gravity is a property of space not matter
    A quasar is a supermassive object. There is no way to observe light or anything else being affected by gravity without something that has mass producing that very gravity for us to observe it. If gravity depended on space and not on matter this would not be the case, we could observe gravity in a vacuum with nothing else around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    A quasar is a supermassive object. There is no way to observe light or anything else being affected by gravity without something that has mass producing that very gravity for us to observe it. If gravity depended on space and not on matter this would not be the case, we could observe gravity in a vacuum with nothing else around.
    Gravity is only produced in space when the vacuum energy which pervades space is locally cohered. This coherence can be produced by mass or energy. And yes you can produce gravity in free space without any mass if you focus enough energy to trigger a localised coherence of the vacuum energy. The jet of a quasar has an enormous energy density so I suspect it will produce far reaching gravitational distortions around the jet. Physicists are working on warp drives and the whole physics of these devices hinges on being able to warp space with energy rather then mass.

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    Btw watch all videos by Kyle Dunnigan.

    Donít let the delusion of reality confuse you regarding the reality of the illusion.


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    There is an intresting idea that i like entertaining, posed by Leedskalnin, that is, gravity and magnetism are the same force, the difference being only in the density of the currents of the flowing miny magnets (which i call gravitoniums). He claims a magnet has the ability to "concentrate" this current.

    Another claim he makes, which is actually of more use to alchemical theory, is that light itself, when it strikes an object, it is either reflected or broken into its 2 constituents, which as gravitoniums and heat.
    That sort of ties together with the notion of leaving liquids in sealed flasks on sunlight so they may be "energized' and become "magnetic". But that is for another thread,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    Gravity is only produced in space when the vacuum energy which pervades space is locally cohered.
    Are you referring to Tom Bearden's theory?

    This coherence can be produced by mass or energy. And yes you can produce gravity in free space without any mass if you focus enough energy to trigger a localised coherence of the vacuum energy. The jet of a quasar has an enormous energy density so I suspect it will produce far reaching gravitational distortions around the jet. Physicists are working on warp drives and the whole physics of these devices hinges on being able to warp space with energy rather then mass.
    Yes. More accurately, with negative energy that would essentially have an anti-gravity effect.

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    Just found out that for the low price of $20k you can book a flight to the edge of space. In a MiG-29 no less.

    http://www.flyfighterjet.com/edge-of...le-id-1-closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendritic Xylem View Post
    Just found out that for the low price of $20k you can book a flight to the edge of space. In a MiG-29 no less.

    http://www.flyfighterjet.com/edge-of...le-id-1-closed
    Quote Originally Posted by Awani View Post
    Yes well Flat Earth folks will just say those videos are made by CIA NASA agents, or that any curvature is lens created.
    Psyop & fish-eye lenses. LOL.



    The "passenger" even goes out of his way to say that he "sees the curvature" and that "it's not an optical illusion".

    I thought this was supposed to be "common knowledge" for everyone, so why would he say that (almost as if surprised) and why would the editors chose to insert this remark in a clip that's less than 80 seconds long?

    Reminds me of an OLD joke I once heard, from the iron curtain era:

    Person A: Have you heard? The Russians have made it into space!
    Person B (with visible excitement): Really? ALL of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    why would the editors chose to insert this remark in a clip that's less than 80 seconds long?
    Because it's polarizing and they know it will create buzz like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon's Tail View Post
    Because it's polarizing and they know it will create buzz like this
    Yep

    Buzz is the word!

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