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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    Gravity can be observed without the need of mass because it bends light...
    ...you touched upon it but gravity also bends time... so I wonder if it bends consciousness...

    We might have a sort of law regarding gravity, but we cannot claim we understand gravity. I wonder if psychedelics have a sort of gravitational pull since it bends the mind. Just a few minutes ago I was listening to a talk by Terence McKenna where he put forth the idea that the mind is folded within the brain (it takes the shape of its container), and with psychedelics the mind unfolds. That is also one plausible explanation...

    If "immaterial" things like time and light can bend, then why not the mind as well?

    Can psychedelics generate gravity?

    The planets are in a preserved angular momentum (think it is called that), and they roll around our sun due to its gravitational pull... and because there is no friction in space, and because the planets are so big it seems like this is going to go on forever. It won't. At some point the Moon is going to reach escape velocity. If a large enough object collides with a planet, the planet can change course... it can get a push to reach escape velocity.

    Our mind seems to be made up of thoughts that are also in preserved angular momentum (volumes of philosophical books could be written about this). If the right ingredient is placed within the mind be it trauma or psychedelics or other, then our thoughts can reach escape velocity.

    Perhaps the debate is not if gravity exists or not.

    Perhaps the debate is what is not gravity?

    Perhaps that is the only thing that exists?

    Perhaps gravity is the felt and visible energy of God itself.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxus View Post
    Gravity can be observed without the need of mass because it bends light if the warping is extreme enough. Extreme warping of space/time must occur around the jets of a quasar and this should be observable by the bending of light rays around the jets. Severe time distortions would also occur around these jets due to their enormous energy density.

    The more massive an object is the grater the coherence of the vacuum energy around that mass thus the grater the gravitational effect...gravity is a property of space not matter
    A quasar is a supermassive object. There is no way to observe light or anything else being affected by gravity without something that has mass producing that very gravity for us to observe it. If gravity depended on space and not on matter this would not be the case, we could observe gravity in a vacuum with nothing else around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    A quasar is a supermassive object. There is no way to observe light or anything else being affected by gravity without something that has mass producing that very gravity for us to observe it. If gravity depended on space and not on matter this would not be the case, we could observe gravity in a vacuum with nothing else around.
    Gravity is only produced in space when the vacuum energy which pervades space is locally cohered. This coherence can be produced by mass or energy. And yes you can produce gravity in free space without any mass if you focus enough energy to trigger a localised coherence of the vacuum energy. The jet of a quasar has an enormous energy density so I suspect it will produce far reaching gravitational distortions around the jet. Physicists are working on warp drives and the whole physics of these devices hinges on being able to warp space with energy rather then mass.

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