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    Quote Originally Posted by JinRaTensei View Post
    hearing things like this subconsciously always have to think of hitlers or rather himmlers SS.many don´t know that the SS stands for Schwarze Sonne or black sun, which is believed to be some esoteric agenda regarding an inner earth sun giving of electricity not warmth as the normal sun is supposed to...it is said that this black su is the heat/light/power source for the inner earth inhabitants of shambala(positive good) and agartha(negative evil).people like nikolas röhrig and his himmalaya expeditions tie into this.
    no idea if the nazis used pythagoras for their thesis but i find them strangely similar
    The Nazis used a lot of symbolism that came from Rosicrucian traditions (i.e, if you compare the most known symbols of Nazism and the Zelator grade of an Order like the Golden Dawn... then it's obvious that the symbols are mostly the same ones... even if the ideologies were in direct opposition).

    And whilst he was not the first to talk about the "hollow earth", I do believe that the fiction book "The Forthcoming Race" by Bulwer Lytton was probably one of their main sources to get obsessed with the hollow earth... but they were reading a sci-fi book as in a very literal way... which is quite a silly thing to do.

    I've had the luck of meeting the family/descendents of that freak who invented the SS... and I use the word "luck" because talking to them I saw how they despised Nazism, racism and Himmler (I never planned to meet them, it's just by chance that his grand-daughter and I were friends when both of us were teens, we have the same age... and after a year of friendship, she told me who was his infamous grand-father and how such thing was a shame for her). It was interesting for me to see how this man and his ideology was even hated by his direct descendents.

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    I've had the luck of meeting the family/descendents of that freak who invented the SS... and I use the word "luck" because talking to them I saw how they despised Nazism, racism and Himmler
    the sin of the father is the salvation for the son,psychologically speaking it is actually not very surprising but expected to a certain degree.
    classically speaking your female friend will despise and distance herself so much from her heritage that this in itself can become a equal fanaticism which will lead her children in the opposite direction of their mother what would be back to something like racism/nazism..that is why such "things" are believed to often jump one generation.if the negative energy dwelling up at the root is not dealt with but just avoided this cycle will continue until finally one descendant sacrifices him/herself to take on that energy and break the cycle....which is what we call karma,the great wheel.
    I hope your friend can find a way to make peace with her heritage somehow, maybe it would help her to know that her grandfather Heinrich probably was as pure and honest in his beliefs and justifications than she might be herself,simplisticly spoken one hates all jews the other hates all nazis just their circumstance and narrative are different.

    have you seen the two Hellboy movies? not many modern movies out there with so much symbolism and outright retelling of "hidden history" it is also quite telling in those movies that the nazis opened a portal to talk/summon Cthulhu just like AC is said to have done only a few years earlier.
    also in this regard the figure Rasputin appears often as well whom I find deeply fascinating but never found a single piece of his work if there even is published literature of him....maybe the fact that he has his "legend" without having published credits him in some way more than others who have no problem seemingly to throw it all out there...for money ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by JinRaTensei View Post
    the other hates all nazis
    Just a small off-topic historical interjection: The term 'nazi' is a western propaganda fabrication, marketed as an abbreviation which was NOT used in Germany in that period. This term simply did not exist in Germany at that time. The ruling party before and during WW2 was initially called DAP (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), then changed to NSDAP ("Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" or in English "National Socialist German Workers Party") and shortly referred to as "National Socialist". For the record.

    History is always written (or re-written) by the victors. People such as Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt, etc sucked just as much. Same crap, different MO. And don't even get me started on Stalin's genocide and uber-racist America in the 30's and 40's.

    Also, like JRT said, AC apparently attempted similar things for a different organization.
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    Good point. As well as the "fact" that the road to Auschwitz was paved with US dollars (as well as Hitler's war machine).





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    Just a small off-topic historical interjection: The term 'nazi' is a western propaganda fabrication, marketed as an abbreviation which was NOT used in Germany in that period. This term simply did not exist in Germany at that time. The ruling party before and during WW2 was initially called DAP (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), then changed to NSDAP ("Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" or in English "National Socialist German Workers Party") and shortly referred to as "National Socialist". For the record.
    true,nobody knows better than someone who grew up in the german school system like I have as well.there was literally almost no two months which could pass without we being reminded that germans are the biggest and only scum on this planet and that we all are there descendants...shame on us ^^.

    I also like to mention that todays so called heroes portrayed in movies like Troja or Alexander the Great or Dschengis Khan have killed many more its just that like Andro mentions the victor writes the history...so Hitlers fault basically was that he lost.. or just like dev mentions IG Farben and Bush senior/Bush seniors father
    are the ones who made WW2 possible...it is even said that no german tank,plane or ship could even move without a special additive to the petrol from IG Farben....but than again do we even have heroes without blood on their hands? mother Theresa is believed to have let the ill suffer unimaginable pain and living conditions because she believed it would purify the soul,Mahatma Ghandi was believed to be controlled british opposition,the Dalai Lama does nothing much about chinas invasion but lives himself in luxus and travels regularly to meet so called banksters,the pope(former) had to lay down his office because of "rumors" about pedophilia...our true heroes seem to be the unsung,the ones in the shadows.evil lurks not just in the dark but baths in the limelight.

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    That is why I keep saying that the message is more important than the messenger. Everyone has skeletons in the closet, and even some of those skeletons might not be true. Unless you are the individual in question there is no way to know.

    Try to be your own hero. Inspiration from others is never bad, but there is no reason to put faith in anything else than direct personal experience. Everything else is hearsay.

    IMO.

    Last edited by Awani; 05-28-2016 at 08:13 PM.
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    true dev but I think this only regards towards messages which you can inherit into your own,which can be used as way for introspection but what about "neutral" messages like I tried to elaborate before where not the message but the messenger is the most vital part of information.

    JinRaTensei: I love you
    zoas23: I love you
    your spouse: I love you

    here for instance,imo, the messenger would be what sets the last message worlds apart from the previous two

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    I have not been following this thread for a few days so I apologise if it has moved on a bit, but I would like to address your post #22 JinRaTensei.

    You made a lot of points and I can see your argument, but also the mistakes we make in the assumption that there is no data, or less research into some of the ideas put forward in the scientific community. I am not qualified to answer your questions, but I am sure the information is out there to do just that.

    If I were to try to explain how to add 1+1 to an ant I would get very frustrated, and I am sure some scientists feel that way when trying to put some of their theories into layman's terms for the average person and most of us would argue that 1+1 does in fact equal 2.



    If I were to go into my beliefs at this present time they would seem very outrageous to most if not all of my friends and, as has been mentioned by others in this thread, I don't disregard the possibility of anything, although I give less weight to some ideas than others.

    The tool we use to weigh up the possibilities or probabilities of a theory has a limited capacity, or at least mine does, I don't want to speak for others, and as such I/we may not be able see a whole picture.

    Just to bring that home I include a picture below of Trinity College Library, Ireland...one of many such libraries around the world...How much information/data is not even present on these shelves?



    What one has to ask is "how much do I not know or what may I have missed?"

    Below is a fake conclusion...can you see what was missed?



    I think most, decent, scientists today would be the first to admit that they don't know enough.

    Below is a YouTube video in favour of the Flat Earth Theory.



    Below is a YouTube video in favour of a Spherical Earth Theory.



    It is for this reason that I, and I am sure many people, keep an open mind to all possibilities, but at each stage of my evolution I try to bring together what I think I know and formulate that into what I believe in the present time, and a Flat Earth it isn't

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    How about a hollow earth complete with civilization. Too far fetched? Take a look.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIYJAcib1iQ
    Thoughts?

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    About the same as the Flat Earth theory.

    I was going to do a trip to the North Pole, but it was far too expensive. The cheapest I could find was £16k.

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