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Thread: The Mineral Identification Key

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    Yeah, i think Graphite and anthracite coal are the strongest contenders which is funny when you think that every alchemist in the past had a coal below his crucible and which was considered terra damnata, right under his nose.

    Golden Chain of Homer has a nice chapter about coal:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmuldvich View Post
    Our Matter has the attributes and characteristics of a mineral but is not a mineral.
    Do (for example) body fluids, like blood and urine, have the attributes and characteristics of a mineral?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Do (for example) body fluids, like blood and urine, have the attributes and characteristics of a mineral?
    Not at all. See criteria Number 3 above - it must be a solid to qualify as being a mineral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    Yeah, i think Graphite and anthracite coal are the strongest contenders which is funny when you think that every alchemist in the past had a coal below his crucible and which was considered terra damnata, right under his nose.

    Golden Chain of Homer has a nice chapter about coal:



    You will have better results with bituminous and lignite coal and peat. That's what Fulcanelli et al played with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf View Post
    Or - a mineral in a very "confused" state.

    Mineral

    noun
    1. any of a class of substances occurring in nature, usually comprising inorganic substances, as quartz or feldspar, of definite chemical composition and usually of definite crystal structure, but sometimes also including rocks formed by these substances as well as certain natural products of organic origin, as asphalt or coal.
    2. a substance obtained by mining, as ore.
    3. (loosely) any substance that is neither animal nor vegetable.


    Actually, substances such as coal are sometimes considered NOT to be a mineral. Here's a better list of criteria:

    To be a mineral a substance must meet five requirements:

    1. naturally occurring (not made by humans)
    2. inorganic (not produced by an organism)
    3. solid
    4. a limited range of chemical compositions
    5. ordered atomic structure



    Here's something interesting. Water is liquid, not solid, so it is not a mineral. BUT a snowflake is solid, is produced naturally, and meets all the criteria. So, guess what? It's a mineral!

    See:
    https://geology.com/articles/water-mineral/
    Quote Originally Posted by z0 K View Post
    You will have better results with bituminous and lignite coal and peat. That's what Fulcanelli et al played with.
    What makes you so sure about this?

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    O you Alchemists! What are you doing?

    This coal is what we work with! Faex means dregs. It is the fixed portion of our Matter.

    Coal is "pure Sulphur or coagulated Oil". Look! It remains at the bottom of our flask.

    When our Matter is prepared it is likened to a mineral due do its new characteristics and outward embodiment.

    Without this necessary body our Work goes nowhere!




    Quote Originally Posted by z0 K View Post
    You will have better results with bituminous and lignite coal and peat. That's what Fulcanelli et al played with.
    Listen to what z0 K is saying!

    Grok (thanks Andro!) these words. z0 K is giving you clues!



    C'mon, Seekers! Can't you SEE!

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    Picture of coal mine. Does it look like a library?

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    Picture of coal mine. Does it look like a library?

    Fantastic picture!

    It looks just like our prepared Matter after it has been mined!

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    The raw matter before preparation also has the same foliated crystal habit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf View Post
    Not at all. See criteria Number 3 above - it must be a solid to qualify as being a mineral.
    Number 3 is problematic because there are natural liquid substances that can't really be considered anything other than "mineral". Metallic mercury sometimes occurs in nature, and I don't think anyone will consider it "animal" or "vegetable" just because it is a liquid. Common water would also be quite difficult to be considered "animal" or "vegetable". Water existed before organic life. In fact, without it, organic life would likely have never evolved.

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