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    Sufism

    There are a few spiritual paths that I "follow; alchemy, gnosticism, anarchy... and sufism.

    Today I discovered an interesting "fact". Sufism, or Sufi, is a term invented by those that are not the thing that is being described.

    Sufism is a way to purify yourself, especially from the illusion of ego. When this is achieved, when you are most pure then you are a Sufi. Such an individual would never claim to be a Sufi, because by claiming to be something they destroy the thing they have just become... which is pure from ego.

    So it is a bit ironic when you look at it from this perspective. But it mirrors my own ideas about being enlightened or reaching Nirvana. If someone ever claims to have reached such states they are automatically - in my book - slipping out of those states because by making such claims they reset themselves back to a state of mind that require such titles.

    See: Selected Rumi poems

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    Rumi is one of the greatest Teachers and Poets of all time IMO. But so is another guy called Shams Tabrizi (Rumi's own teacher).

    Rumi and Shams actually knew each other. In fact they were lovers. This does not mean they were homosexual (does not mean they were not either). Because when these men speak of love and lovers they speak of all men and women and God etc. So it is hard to say. Anyway it is actually not important... I just thought they should make a film of these two lovers. Could be like Brokeback Mountain, but instead of cowboys two wise Teachers.


    “The summary of the advice of all prophets is this;
    Find yourself a mirror.”
    ― Shams Tabrizi

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    In addition to his book "Alchemy: Science of the Cosmos, Science of the Soul," Titus Burckhardt excellently translates between sufi and alchemical terminology in his "Introduction to Sufi Doctrine":
    http://ignisetazoth.blogspot.com/201...d-alchemy.html

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    "The Beloved (God) drowns in his own being. And this world is drenched in that drowning." - Rumi



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    I cannot stop listening to the music and the poetry in the above video. Let me spell it out in more detail for those interested:

    Today like every other day,
    we wake up empty and frightened.
    Don't open the door to the study and begin reading.
    Take down a musical instrument.

    Let the beauty we lost be what we do.
    There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground

    Would you like to have revealed to you the truth of the friend?
    Leave the rind and descend into the pith.

    Fold within fold, the Beloved [God] drowns in his own being.
    This world is drenched in that drowning.

    I am so small I can barely be seen.
    How can this great love be inside me?

    Look at your eyes.
    They are small, but they see enormous things

    Pale sunlight,
    pale the wall.
    Love moves away.
    The light changes.

    I need more grace than I thought.
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    For most people the term Jihad is deeply connected with terrorism, however this is not really accurate. It is the same with the fate the Swastika suffered when the Nazis adopted it, as well as most recently what happened to the popular meme Pepe the Frog. Something that starts out with positive vibes are, when touched by the hands of ignorant assholes, turned into something negative.

    Jihad basically represents the struggle with the self and with God, and is classified in two groups: the lesser Jihad and the greater Jihad. Like in alchemy this is the Islamic version of the above and the below.

    The lesser Jihad is the Holy War that Jihad is mostly known for, however the concept of Holy War is – much like the concept of the Spanish Inquisition – something that has been concocted by the organizer of Islam. Such people, or groups, have complete lack of spiritual and divine energies, and are only focused on power and greed. All religions have these people, and they are ultimately irrelevant. At least to me.

    In Islamic Mysticism, Sufism, there is the concept of the greater Jihad, which is the struggle against oneself… and the struggle to be at one with the Beloved (Allah, God, the Source… etc.). Or in other terms it is the struggle within oneself against sin, but yet again sin did not originally mean what it is represents now.

    Sin was simply missing the mark, falling of the wagon… not seeing the forest for the trees etc. We are all on a spiritual quest of some sort, consciously or not, and for me personally I am always at war, in the realm of the greater Jihad.



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    The cat's pyjamas...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Awani View Post

    In Islamic Mysticism, Sufism, there is the concept of the greater Jihad, which is the struggle against oneself… and the struggle to be at one with the Beloved (Allah, God, the Source… etc.). Or in other terms it is the struggle within oneself against sin, but yet again sin did not originally mean what it is represents now.
    Jihad al-nafs.

    When asked, 'What is the major jihad?' the Prophet (s) replied: 'The jihad of the self (struggle against self)'
    [Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 19, p. 182, hadith no. 31]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3+O( View Post
    In addition to his book "Alchemy: Science of the Cosmos, Science of the Soul," Titus Burckhardt excellently translates between sufi and alchemical terminology in his "Introduction to Sufi Doctrine":
    http://ignisetazoth.blogspot.com/201...d-alchemy.html
    The Rosicrucians in the West adopted almost literally the teaching of the Spanish illuminist Sufis in claiming an unbroken succession of inner teaching, in which they included "Hermes". The Western illuminati included Mohammed in their chain of transmitters. Count Michael Maier in 1617 wrote "Symbola Aurea Mensae Duodecim Nationum" [Contributions of Twelve Nations to the Golden Table], in which he showed that the Sufi tradition of a succession of teachers was still being maintained.

    Among the alchemical teachers were several whom the Sufis also recognize, including Westerners who had studied Saracen lore. They are:

    Hermes of Egypt
    Mary the Hebrew
    Democritus of Greece
    Morienus of Rome
    Avicenna [Ibn Sina] of Arabia
    Albertus Magnus of Germany
    Arnaud de Villeneuve of France
    Thomas Aquinas of Italy
    Raymond Lully of Spain
    Roger Bacon of England
    Melchior Cibiensis of Hungary
    Michael Sendivogius of Poland


    All Western alchemy, of course, is attributed by tradition to Geber [Jabir Ibn el-Hayyan], the Sufi."

    - "The Sufis" by Idris Shah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Marcus View Post
    Jihad al-nafs.

    When asked, 'What is the major jihad?' the Prophet (s) replied: 'The jihad of the self (struggle against self)'
    [Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 19, p. 182, hadith no. 31]
    You simply re-stated exactly what I had written.

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