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    The quintessence of honey

    I'm curious if anyone has any experience with this?
    It seems like a fairly easy experiment, and it is supposed to be able
    to dissolve gold.

    The process is to simply distill honey.
    White vapors form and condense over into red drops.

    I'll try this soon. I made one quintessence of honey - I think it was
    French's recipe - where you let the honey digest with alcohol for a time,
    seperate the tincture from the dregs and distill it down to a syrup.
    I don't recall that that one should dissolve gold, but both ways said
    that a couple drops will revive the dying.

    I really enjoy taking the quintessence I made, but I don't think it'll
    revive the dying. So I'll try this other way. Some other recipes say it
    revives the dying when the gold is dissolved in it.

    I know there are wonderful things inherent in honey.
    Please share any alchemical processes you know involving honey.

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    I've been meaning to give this a try. Honey is an interesting substance, it is both vegetable and animal at the same time. When collected fresh from nature, it should be chalked full of life spirit.

    This goes without saying that in order to obtain an alchemical product one must use honey from an organic source. Honey harvested during the spring months should be most effective.

    In theory, a stone can be made from this substance. Distill the sulphur of honey, ferment the distillate with the residue in the flask for a period, then distill the mercury. Extract a pure salt from the residue in the distillation flask. This salt should function as an interesting hybridized magnet for the secret fire.

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    A family member of mine carried out multiple experiments such as distillations of honey, but also extractions with alcohol. I can assure you that they all failed. It might be argued that it was the skill of the operator that was in question and while that could be a potential cause, I remain of the opinion that a different land of milk and honey is envisaged.

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    It might be argued that it was the skill of the operator that was in question and while that could be a potential cause, I remain of the opinion that a different land of milk and honey is envisaged.
    In that case, what do you believe is that land of milk and honey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleilius View Post
    In that case, what do you believe is that land of milk and honey?
    Milk and honey are nothing, but mercury and sulphur. Milk is white and thus Luna, while honey is gold colored and thus Sol. When speaking of the land of milk and honey is often a reference to an advanced stage of the matter when it has acquired a certain degree of power, since it signifies abundance and references to sulphur are sometimes left out of the equation til this rise in power.

    References to our brass or egg white and egg yolk are not different in that sense.

    From religious perspectives, a god or gods created everything and everything was thus good. If something is not good and has no potential to become good then truly it could not be the creation of a god and must be a creation of a lesser entity. Everything is thus worth much more than it seems if only this potential would be unlocked, but of course it is much easier with some substances than with others (as it takes more than a lifetime for some).

    It might be wondered why everything was good when it was created and yet not everything remained good. The key lies within 'The Evil' or better said 'D evil'. Devil in reverse spells 'lived', the past tense of life. Those who thus desecrate their body which is the holy temple of God, desecrate the Temple of Life (Islam offers good examples of the importance of keeping the body pure, although being worth little nowadays due to being stripped out of their original context). These are thus considered sinners and for this they are punished by being sent to hell which is better known as death. Their death is the life of others who are offered a chance to do what their predecessors could not do: acquire the knowledge to vanquish death and thus go to Heaven.

    There is nothing more important than the attainment of this wisdom as can be seen from the following reference:

    “Happy is the man that finds wisdom, and the man that gets understanding. For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver, and the gain thereof than fine gold.
    She is more precious than rubies: and all the things you can desire are not to be compared to her. Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honor.
    Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. She is a tree of life to them that lay hold on her: and happy is every one that retains her.” – Proverbs 3:13-18
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    Ive recently been curious about honey also, partially because it was associated with Ra in Egypt, and also because i notice it has some peculiar healing properties all its own. (before alchemical tinkering.)
    Namely: if you get a burn on you, and put honey on it, it seems it heals the burn both quickly and "cleanly", as i know from experience to be the case. Just the other day in fact, touched a hot piece of metal with my thumb, have had burns like it before, but this time used honey on it, after a few mins i licked it off *waste not *, and there was no soreness, no inflammation, no burn mark of any kind.

    Im considering mixing it with both rain and dew water, along with some other things... depending... mostly experimenting i guess...

    Ill create another thread and tell of it, if i get anything worth posting.
    (and i always welcome input/advice )

    http://itotd.com/articles/218/honey-as-medicine/ that link has some info about natural applications for honey, with that, i can only imagine what a skilled alchemist can do with it.


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    One fatal tree there stands of knowledge called, forbidden them to taste. Knowledge forbidden? Suspicious. Reasonless. And why should their Lord envy them that? Can it be sin to know? Can it be death? And do they stand by ignorance, is that their happy state, the proof of their obedience and their faith?

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    Hi.

    Obtaining the essence of honey has been one of my early spagyric work.
    I got the recipe in the chemistry course of Lefevre, Volume 1, page 218:

    II. Quintessence de miel.
    Vous prendrez deux livres de miel blanc, qui ait une bonne odeur & un bon goût. Vous le mettrez en une grande cucurbite de verre, dont les trois quarts soient vides. Vous la couvrirez de sa chape à bec bien lutée, à laquelle vous appliquerez un grand récipient pareillement luté. Faites un feu doux de cendres, jusqu’à ce que vous voyez monter des vapeurs blanches ; & pour les condenser en esprit, vous appliquerez sur la chape & sur le récipient des linges mouillés en eau froide, & il en sortira une liqueur qui sera rouge comme sang. Après la distillation, vous mettrez cette liqueur en un vaisseau de verre bien bouché, tant que la liqueur soit bien clarifiée & de couleur de rubis. Après quoi vous distillerez sept ou huit fois, jusqu’à ce que sa couleur rouge soit convertie en un jaune doré, & prendra une odeur très douce & très agréable. Cette quintessence dissout l’or en chaux, & le rend potable. Deux ou trois dragmes de cette liqueur prises intérieurement, font revenir à eux ceux qui sont à l’extrémité : elle fortifie même ceux qui jouissent de la santé, guérit la toux, les catarrhes & la rate ; appliquée sut les plaies & ulcères, elle les guérit incontinent, Fioraventi rapporte en avoir donné à des personnes dans les approches de la mort, & qu’il rappelait ainsi a la vie, pour leur donner au moins le temps de mettre ordre à leurs affaires. Distillée vingt fois avec argent fin, & donnée pendant quarante-six jours à un paralytique, il en a été guéri : c’est ce que Fioraventi marque avoir éprouvé lui-même. Sur quoi ce Médecin fait une remarque fort sensée à ce sujet, que Dieu n’a jamais promis dans l’Ecriture sainte, ni scammonée, ni casse, ni turbith, ni rhubarbe ; mais bien du froment, du vin, de l’huile, du lait & du miel.

    A little synthesis :

    Quintessence of Honey

    Take two pounds of white honey, with good smell and good flavour. Put it in a large glass retort. This retort should be full at ¼ with honey.
    Heat the cucurbite with sweet ashes fire, until you see white vapours. To condensate this vapours, use a system of refresh like humid clothes. You will then obtain a red liquor, like blood. Keep this red liquor in a very well closed vessel until this liquid become ruby red and clear.
    Then, you could distil this red liquor seven or eight times to obtain a gilt tincture. This tincture will have a very great smell.
    This quintessence dissolve gold calx and then it will be an aurum potabile.
    You could also distil twenty times this quintessence with pure silver.
    Etc.

    Personally, I had done a little different.
    Instead of keep the red distillate in another vessel, I made seven distillations with putting distillate on the feces.

    And here are some pictures to decorate ...

    First, the assembly. It is a hot balloon of fortune. An electric hot plate, an aluminum container, sand, a Pyrex flask with a capacity of 2L, a Liebieg and a balloon receiving 1L:



    Then the warmed honey:



    Between each distillation, here is what the slag:
    In the balloon first.



    Loosened it.



    Then, before putting on the distillate such slags, I reduce the powder:



    Finally, the beautiful essence of honey:

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    Thats pretty neat Green Lion, have you ever used it for anything yet, or noticed any sort of effects it has? *im quite curious of this stuff as of late, not sure why either, but it has my attention. *
    One fatal tree there stands of knowledge called, forbidden them to taste. Knowledge forbidden? Suspicious. Reasonless. And why should their Lord envy them that? Can it be sin to know? Can it be death? And do they stand by ignorance, is that their happy state, the proof of their obedience and their faith?

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    I had all given to my father.
    So I don't test anything with this quintessence.
    He used it in ingestion to increase his psychic power and he said me that was great.
    But I don't have any information concerning therapeutic action of gold or silver solution in this quintessence of honey.

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    Green Lion, that sounds neat. May i ask what kinda psychic activities he does that it boosted? (not trying to pry, just curious of the honey, and trying to get an idea of what to expect.)

    Thanks a lot for your information and insight into the mater.
    One fatal tree there stands of knowledge called, forbidden them to taste. Knowledge forbidden? Suspicious. Reasonless. And why should their Lord envy them that? Can it be sin to know? Can it be death? And do they stand by ignorance, is that their happy state, the proof of their obedience and their faith?

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