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    Quote Originally Posted by Axismundi000 View Post

    It is definately upright on my iPad so if incorrect orientation my apologies.
    Hi Axis, I don't know what you did but the pics are right side up. Maybe an OS update from Apple fixed it!!!

    BTW, where did you get those stackable shelves/tables? They look awesome and very functional. Please let me know.

    TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    Too neat and organized labs are not how alchemical & chymical labs should look like. A true alchemical & chymical lab has to have the sure signs of ongoing activity all over the place, which necessarily implies a certain degree of disorganization and "uncleanliness".
    I used to have a Dr. Frankenstein type of lab, but not anymore. I got a long time ago an insane amount of equipment from an Alchemist (who is not my friend, he was threatened by his wife who said "The lab goes away or I do!"... so he offered it in a web similar to eBay for almost nothing and I arrived first). Some of it doesn't even make sense to ME (like a 100 liters borosilicate vessel -huge and pointless to me).

    With time and patience I built wooden boxes with polystyrene inside and a thick fabric glued to the polystyrene (I think I can even drop one of them to the floor with a fragile equipment and it won't even have a minor scratch)...

    Axis said/asked: "do you think there are many worthy apprentices going around polishing and cleaning daily?".

    in my own case such thing WAS a problem... I had so MUCH equipment that it was always "dirty" even if I was not using it (just like the furniture or everything in the house gets "dirty").

    This is just an example:




    So my lab is quite "clean" because I ONLY use what I use, the rest is stored... and sometimes there are things going on outside the lab too (I have a circulation going on since some months ago in a hot place in the room where my computer is and it's not in "the lab")... whilst 2 vessels are outside in the balcony.

    But I enjoy a lot NOT to have a lab that looks like the pictures you sent. I prefer to have everything stored and use only what I need to use. It is somehow my answer to the question that Axis asked... before the wooden boxes, it was a nightmare to clean everything. Some of the BIG stuff that is not suitable for boxes is in a closed closet... But that's how I like it.

    Very nice lab, Aham... I have the weirdest question: Why do you have so many maps? They look truly nice, but my guess is that there is a story behind them and I love stories!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aham View Post
    Hi Axis, I don't know what you did but the pics are right side up. Maybe an OS update from Apple fixed it!!!

    BTW, where did you get those stackable shelves/tables? They look awesome and very functional. Please let me know.

    TIA
    I got them as 'flatpacks' self assembly from a shop called ARGOS but I think you can get similar on-line. One is not so good it has spring steel rods in the pillars and is designed to be wobbly unless fixed to a wall, maybe a more useful feature if you live in an earthquake zone. Once you have enough gear that it can get dusty I just keep the glassware in those padded parcel envelope things in cupboards and draws. It's a very good idea to write on the outside in clear bold print what it contains or you will never find anything. I resist the anal retentive urge to label the cupboards and drawers in the same way by just keeping say 24/40 in one storage place and say the kjeldhal stuff in another. You will gradually accumulate all manner of stuff Aham so localised and labelled is a good idea. It contributes positively to domestic harmony I have found.
    Last edited by Axismundi000; 03-27-2017 at 08:14 AM. Reason: Added stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axismundi000 View Post
    It's a very good idea to write on the outside in clear bold print what it contains or you will never find anything. I resist the anal retentive urge to label the cupboards and drawers in the same way by just keeping say 24/40 in one storage place and say the kjeldhal stuff in another. You will gradually accumulate all manner of stuff Aham so localised and labelled is a good idea. It contributes positively to domestic harmony I have found.
    I completely agree with this idea.
    Unless you are a hermit, you usually want to invite friends to your house... and having the equipment properly stored saves you from answering a lot of questions and it also saves you from breaking something in an accident.... and what you are not using does not get dirty.

    AND I doubt that anyone needs to use ALL his equipment ALL the time...

    And "The lab of Dr. Frankenstein" (as I call it) looks nice for a while, but eventually you get tired of it and I like the word that Axis used: it is more "harmonic" to keep things organized.
    As for the labelling things... yes! I write what it contains, the size and the measure of the joints (i.e, "3 liters round flask 24/40")... I write it very big and I often draw it on the outside too (i.e, if a box contains a round vessel, I draw a round vessel)...

    Besides from contributing to the "domestic harmony" (I completely agree with the idea), it actually makes it EASIER to work in the lab too... simply because you have there ONLY what you are using, so you don't need to be cautious all the time with the fragile glass equipment that you are NOT using.

    It is similar to having a bibliotheque... you probably read your books in your favorite chair or table... but if you have ALL your books on top of the table, it becomes a mess and it's probably less pleasant to read the book you are reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoas23 View Post
    I used to have a Dr. Frankenstein type of lab, but not anymore. I got a long time ago an insane amount of equipment from an Alchemist (who is not my friend, he was threatened by his wife who said "The lab goes away or I do!"... so he offered it in a web similar to eBay for almost nothing and I arrived first). Some of it doesn't even make sense to ME (like a 100 liters borosilicate vessel -huge and pointless to me).

    With time and patience I built wooden boxes with polystyrene inside and a thick fabric glued to the polystyrene (I think I can even drop one of them to the floor with a fragile equipment and it won't even have a minor scratch)...

    Axis said/asked: "do you think there are many worthy apprentices going around polishing and cleaning daily?".

    in my own case such thing WAS a problem... I had so MUCH equipment that it was always "dirty" even if I was not using it (just like the furniture or everything in the house gets "dirty").

    This is just an example:




    So my lab is quite "clean" because I ONLY use what I use, the rest is stored... and sometimes there are things going on outside the lab too (I have a circulation going on since some months ago in a hot place in the room where my computer is and it's not in "the lab")... whilst 2 vessels are outside in the balcony.

    But I enjoy a lot NOT to have a lab that looks like the pictures you sent. I prefer to have everything stored and use only what I need to use. It is somehow my answer to the question that Axis asked... before the wooden boxes, it was a nightmare to clean everything. Some of the BIG stuff that is not suitable for boxes is in a closed closet... But that's how I like it.

    Very nice lab, Aham... I have the weirdest question: Why do you have so many maps? They look truly nice, but my guess is that there is a story behind them and I love stories!
    A 100 liter vessel can be quite useful if you have the space to use it.

    The point is to keep most of the stuff you need handy & ready for use, and conduct as many experiments as possible. Besides money, investigating this subject also demands a lot of time. Since most of your experiments will end up in failure to achieve any of the desired goals, you will eventually realize that carrying out multiple experiments at a time is a good thing, if you have the space and equipment to do it. Thus why the drawings/paintings of old alchemical/chymical labs look like a "chaos" of all sorts of vessels & furnaces/forges and, in many cases, even assistants going around carrying out all sorts of operations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDP View Post
    A 100 liter vessel can be quite useful if you have the space to use it.

    The point is to keep most of the stuff you need handy & ready for use, and conduct as many experiments as possible. Besides money, investigating this subject also demands a lot of time. Since most of your experiments will end up in failure to achieve any of the desired goals, you will eventually realize that carrying out multiple experiments at a time is a good thing, if you have the space and equipment to do it. Thus why the drawings/paintings of old alchemical/chymical labs look like a "chaos" of all sorts of vessels & furnaces/forges and, in many cases, even assistants going around carrying out all sorts of operations.
    I would need to hire a blacksmith to build a tripod for it first... because it is VERY heavy... I have no idea of what the other alchemist was doing with it.

    I often have one MAIN experiment going on and a few side-experiments going on (I blame my lab partner for such thing, his way of thinking is quite similar to yours in this sense).

    I do prefer to focus on ONE thing at the time, but your view has its advantages too, so I keep a balance between these two extremes.... though I certainly know that I do not want to return to "Dr. Frankenstein's lab". Even if Axis and I have a tendency to "fight" a lot, this time I agree with him and I totally get what he means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoas23 View Post
    Axis and I have a tendency to "fight" a lot
    Just don't "fight" in the equipment section - have mercy on all the fragile glassware around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Just don't "fight" in the equipment section - have mercy on all the fragile glassware around here
    LOL... I doubt you'll see any fight here. I often disagree with Axis, but this time we both seem to have arrived to almost IDENTICAL ideas (even if our practice can be quite different, but such thing doesn't matter), but his simple ideas are the same ones I have. I liked how he used the expression "domestic harmony" and I couldn't agree more with that expression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoas23 View Post
    Very nice lab, Aham... I have the weirdest question: Why do you have so many maps? They look truly nice, but my guess is that there is a story behind them and I love stories!
    Thanks Z Here's my dull story... A couple of months ago I had bought a 2012 Italian calendar for $0.25 because of the amazing quality of paper the calendar was printed on. While negotiating the placement of the lab, the goddess of "domestic harmony" expressed her wish to use the pics from the calendar for the lab and also for other parts of the house. So I took the 5 pics I liked and put them in frames to hang over the wall by the lab area and I made 7 more frames with the art deco pics for her to use in other parts of the house.

    BTW, I completely agree that even if I have 100% clean equipment, dust will eventually cover the glass and the glass will have to be washed again. Your wooden box with styrofoam is probably too much for me but just styrofoam might do the trick for what I need. I'm definitely going to steal that idea. Thanks.

    So, let's see what you lab looks like, inside and outside
    Last edited by Aham; 03-28-2017 at 02:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axismundi000 View Post
    I got them as 'flatpacks' self assembly from a shop called ARGOS but I think you can get similar on-line.
    Thanks Axis. Will check that out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axismundi000 View Post
    You will gradually accumulate all manner of stuff Aham so localised and labelled is a good idea. It contributes positively to domestic harmony I have found.
    Yes, 100% agree on labeling and keeping glass in things like padded boxes or envelopes. I'll have to start saving those Amazon 'air pockets' for use in storing my glass.

    Thanks again

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