(non)Mineral, (non)Metal, (non)Magnet

[Visceral]

There are many ways of attractions, and many ways of manifestations.

Study Nature. How it holds it.

I gave hints in the "Spiritus Mundi" thread on this forum. And in fact, I just repeated what other ancient alchemists said.


Make tests, and never get bored.

I read well the SM thread and took both your and Andros and GLs posts as containing true wisdom.

I have and continue to explore many variations of many tests. Some things I know well, other things I know not at all. I have activated my Merkaba and I fear no Dissolution of my consciousness in any possible realm any further. I have traveled the Elusian fields and seen the Minotaur who guards the Labyrinth. I defeated the Labyrinth and made it to the center and discovered the "plug" that holds our entire Omniverse from "falling" into the next one. I have seen the True Yggdrasill with my own eyes. I watched the Tree of Life gather what I would now describe as True Mundi, all golden sparkles being drawn in through it's roots to the tips to coagulate as dew drops to expand and give birth to all forms of creation. I saw these drops pop if they failed to pass the Test of Life and watched their energy return to the Soil to be again Re-Assimilated by the Tree. I saw the the ones that pass this test solidify with their own inherent existence and pop off the Tree and float into the sky to become their own Buddhaverses and stars in the Astral Realm. I understand very well the connection of Nature and the begetting of Seeds and how these lead to Life.

I have, with my own two hands, constructed what I can only honestly describe (perhaps I am wrong and do not know) as the most powerful plant subtance obtainable by man. It is a white crystalline substance occasionally red/yellow, occasionally as a gummy caramel-esque oil and when simply treated correctly with heat it opens a stable and reliable wormhole to what can only be described as another dimension. If there be more powerful plant magic than this, I can only say I do not wish to know of it.

Through (and probably because of all this) I have developed within myself several variations of what Hindu Yogis would refer to as Siddis. I can walk on handrails the width of two fingers with ease. Headstands, standing on my hands, almost all physical activity is as a childish trick to my mind. I am not even concerned with it, and so it comes easily.

One of the processes involved in activating a Merkaba is the unblocking of your Chakras and the clearing of your Kundalini Pathways. A side effect of this is I am almost never tired until it is obviously time for me to sleep. From waking until sleeping and even at work I am engaged in an activity that is somehow related to my goals.

Having achieved immortality of the consciousness, my only real goals now are to achieve a physical body that will endure until I am ready to pass onwards and the way I have discovered is known to us as the Philosophers Stone. The descriptions of the Stone meet every need I conceivably have right now, as my deepest desire at the moment is a private abode to conduct my research in without needing to engage in day to day distractions, like work.

If I had all the wealth in the world you can be sure the world itself would benefit from it immensely and you would probably never learn my real name. I could not be less interested in attention or adulation.

What I am after is True Knowledge.

[Luxus]

Our starting Matter and our Prima Materia are two different (yet the same) substances. Our starting Matter is what we Collect and work upon in the beginning of our Work, whereas our Prima Materia is what we cause to be extracted (from either a Proximal or Remote material, depending on our method of working i.e. the Noble Way or a Less Noble Way).

We need to remember that the Ancients spoke in a vernacular not easily digested by modern man. When the old Adepts spoke or wrote down what they had to say, it was always written with veiled speech. You cannot take their words literally or follow their receipts directly. Where one Author could be referring to our starting Matter, another Author uses the same word to describe our Prima Materia. Both Authorities are correct in spirit while superficially disagreeing on the surface.

Many Adepts exoterically spoke of a subject while esoterically paralleling another very similar subject which can be absolutely perplexing, misleading, and confusing to the uninitiated Seeker especially when such writers purposely spoke about the Short Path when describing the Long Path and vice versa.

Taking time to read and understand what has been written in the past is something I cannot stress enough! One must have a foundation and familiarity with the Works and words of old Adepts before ever beginning trying to comprehend what they were attempting to convey to the honest Seeker. "A New Chemical Light" by Sendivogius and "An Open Entrance To The Closed Palace Of The King" by Philalethes are both great texts highly worthy of diligent study. There is a reason I posted that little excerpt from von Suchten; read it all. If reading is not your thing, pondering various series of Alchemical Images & Illustrations may be more worth your time.

The top image I posted yesterday declares our Whole Art, whereas the bottom image is a portrayal of the Short Path. Today I posted two more images I really admire. The picture at the top of this post is another bold declaration of our Art, and this bottom image is another depiction of the Short Path.

By prima materia I understand the starting matter also called Earth, Corpus, Lead, Saturn, Gold etc
When this prima materia is dissolved by Azoth it forms philosophical mercury (not to be confused with universal mercury)

I am however confused by the term short path and long path because at the moment I see only one path.

[JDP]

By prima materia I understand the starting matter also called Earth, Corpus, Lead, Saturn, Gold etc
When this prima materia is dissolved by Azoth it forms philosophical mercury (not to be confused with universal mercury)

I am however confused by the term short path and long path because at the moment I see only one path.

See the following threads:

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...ight=helvetius

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...ight=helvetius

http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...ight=helvetius

[Visceral]

The idea of the "magnet" is identical to an hygroscopic that attracts water... if you leave a glass of potassium hydroxide, you will collect water.
A non magnetic way would be filling a bowl with ice and placing the same glass in the center of the ice, you will collect water too, but there is no "magnet".
More or less a similar logic applies. So if you want to collect water from the air, you can do it by using several different techniques. There isn't just ONE way.

The trick mentioned by Salazius is not different than the "3 golds" of the Hermetic Triumph: http://www.levity.com/alchemy/triumph5.html
(1. an Astral Gold. 2. an Elementary Gold. 3. a metallic gold).

I never saw any author or person claiming to have obtained the first in the preliminaries, always the second. The "trick" involves something similar to going from the second to the first. So Salazius is right.

The spirit that is captured, at least in ALL the cases I know, is always similar to the second kind of gold (maybe someone is getting the first one directly, I never heard of such thing, but I can't say that it's impossible... I simply never heard anyone even claiming to have done it... nor I saw a book that claims that such thing is possible).

The vessel is (in most cases) a glass vessel. Some old texts in a tricky way offer a BIG hint (i.e, Sincerus Renatus in his "The True preparation of the Philosopher's Stone" when he speaks about the "Materia Remota" -chapters 1 and 2- says something very specific that can only lead to a simple idea... He uses 2 vessels, one inside the other, which is OK... but the hint is given when he has his "Materia Remota" and has to do something very specific with the smaller vessel).

As Salazius said, the Spiritus Mundi that is captured is not the Universal Solvent, but its precursor... knowing the "trick" of going from the "captured Spiritus Mundi" to the "Universal Solvent" is almost like knowing it all.

I found that link to be quite illuminating, as far as alchemical texts go, in that it essentially further outlined the mysteries at hand, but I did find it comforting that my personal stumbling block is apparently THE stumbling block, so thank you for that.

Kio, is the technique you're referring to one of the many methods of "conjuring" the Dao, or bio hacking a Delta wave state, or "falling" into Sattori, or one of the other methods of mental backflipping to get your conscious ego mind/frontal lobe out of the way? I long ago lost count of how many of these I've researched and mastered or discarded along the way.

I am interested in producing an ACTUAL, PHYSICAL, TANGIBLE, STONE OF THE PHILOSOPHERS. I am interested in Mastering this Art that I may perfect my Hermetic Arts and with them work wonders in Nature in Accordance with Her Laws.

[zoas23]

I found that link to be quite illuminating, as far as alchemical texts go, in that it essentially further outlined the mysteries at hand, but I did find it comforting that my personal stumbling block is apparently THE stumbling block, so thank you for that.

I am interested in producing an ACTUAL, PHYSICAL, TANGIBLE, STONE OF THE PHILOSOPHERS. I am interested in Mastering this Art that I may perfect my Hermetic Arts and with them work wonders in Nature in Accordance with Her Laws.

Yes, your "stumbling block" is hardly surprising, it is indeed THE "stumbling block".
There is a text I like a lot and I have linked several times: Speculum Sophicum Rhodostauroticum: http://atrightanglestoreality.blogsp...-cross-by.html

The text itself is 50% an alchemical text and 50% a "propaganda" text. "Propaganda" in the sense that it's one of the few texts I know that explains "the first half" of the process and doesn't explain the second half... and the "trick" there is "If you manage to complete the first half, then you will be invited to join us and we will explain you the second half" (in a funny way they never explained how the hell they will know that someone has completed the first half, which created a lot of publicly published open letters from people claiming to have done it and asking to be contacted).

So it is, indeed, the "hard part" of alchemy... and the reason that makes this "propaganda" text work. Creating a "precursor" to the Solvent is not incredibly complicated (they call it Parergon there, "side-work" or "preliminary work")... but you can get stuck there. I assume that this text must have sounded very attractive... someone was telling the ones who have managed to find the precursor that they will be "contacted" and the "hard part" will be explained. If doing it was very easy, then the "propaganda" itself would not make much sense.

[Kiorionis]

I have created a few spin-off threads. Please continue the conversations in the relevant threads:

Speculum Sophicum Rhodostauroticum
Eastern Concepts of Ascension and Alchemy
Qualities of a Solvent

[Visceral]

To say more on what is probably the common form of the true Magnet

The concentrate is then mixed with small amounts of limestone and clay,

the "black sands" gold panners are familiar with is actual a combination of mostly magnetite with other odd particles



Magnetite also acts as a spirit, which penetrates and aligns itself with Nature

Tiny crystals of magnetite are present in many rocks. In the crystallization of an igneous rock, tiny crystals of magnetite form in the melt, and because they are magnetic, they orient themselves with the direction and polarity of Earth's magnetic field. This preserves the orientation of Earth's magnetic field within the rock at the moment of crystallization.

http://geology.com/minerals/magnetite.shtml

Its color ranges include red to brown and black to gray to silver.

Even though hematite has a highly variable appearance, it always produces a reddish streak.

The name hematite is from the Greek word "haimatitis" which means "blood-red." That name stems from the color of hematite when it has been crushed to a fine powder. Primitive people discovered that hematite could be crushed and mixed with a liquid for use as a paint or cosmetic. Cave paintings, known as "pictographs," dating back to 40,000 years ago were created with hematite pigments

Hematite is used for a number of other purposes. It is a very dense and inexpensive material that is effective at stopping x-rays. For that reason it is used for radiation shielding around medical and scientific equipment.

http://geology.com/minerals/hematite.shtml

[Andro]

To say more on what is probably the common form of the true Magnet

What makes a magnet a magnet? (alchemical, not common)

A magnet for what?

What makes THIS "magnet" (that you posted) an alchemical magnet?
_________________________________________

Would you please elaborate on these three points?

Thanks.

[Visceral]

What makes a magnet a magnet? (alchemical, not common)

A magnet for what?

What makes THIS "magnet" (that you posted) an alchemical magnet?
_________________________________________

Would you please elaborate on these three points?

Thanks.

I will do my best to explain my thoughts on each of those three points

1) a magnet by any other name still holds the disposition of Attraction, and therefore Repulsion. This is true even if we consider it from the reverse (Repulsion also implies Attraction).

2) A magnet for one of the preliminary compounds required for the Magnum Opus (all clever riddles of from one begets two begets one aside)

3) Aside from all of the other qualities listed that match various stages of the starting compound from many and varied and oft quoted Adepts, it is also literally not a magnet yet still physically manifests forms of magnetism. I am unsure after the shuffling which posts and links made it through, so here again is a link to hematite for anyone wishing to look at its actual magnetic properties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hematite

My position is that if you read the words of the Adepts and Masters, as well as follow my train of thought (or entertain it and explain where I err, if you could be so kind ) you will see that the end result is not only LITERALLY the best candidate (based on available description) but also PHILOSOPHICALLY the best candidate, from its deep history with man, recurrence with all of the mentioned ores/materials/metals that ARE mentioned by name while it itself never is mentioned by any Adept or Master I've read, its use and possession by nearly every great mind and artist known to Men by its easily explained away use of a common pigment, I could go on and on.

One of the first uses was as a pigment. The yellow form produced yellow ochre for which Cyprus was famous,[8] while the darker forms produced more earthy tones. Roasting the limonite changed it partially to hematite, producing red ochres, burnt umbers and siennas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonite

Limonite often forms as a precipitate at springs and mine openings where acidic, iron-laden waters emerge from the subsurface

http://geology.com/minerals/limonite.shtml

Gray hematite is typically found in places that can have still standing water or mineral hot springs, such as those in Yellowstone National Park in North America. The mineral can precipitate out of water and collect in layers at the bottom of a lake, spring, or other standing water.

The English name of the stone is derived from Middle French: Hématite Pierre, which was imported from Latin: Lapis Hæmatites around the 15th century, which originated from Ancient Greek: αἱματίτης λίθος (haimatitēs lithos, "blood-red stone").

Red ochre contains unhydrated hematite, whereas yellow ochre contains hydrated hematite

The red chalk writing of this mineral was one of the earliest in the history of humans. The powdery mineral was first used 164,000 years ago by the Pinnacle-Point man possibly for social purposes.[6] Hematite residues are also found in graves from 80,000 years ago. Near Rydno in Poland and Lovas in Hungary red chalk mines have been found that are from 5000 BC, belonging to the Linear Pottery culture at the Upper Rhine

the spin canting properties of hematite:

The net result is a small perturbation, the extent of which depends on the relative strength of these effects.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_canting

The iron content of taconite, commonly present as finely dispersed magnetite, is generally 25% to 30%.

o process taconite, the ore is ground into a fine powder, the magnetite is separated from the gangue by strong magnets, and the powdered iron concentrate is combined with a binder such as bentonite clay and limestone as a flux.

Firing the pellet oxidizes the magnetite (Fe3O4) to hematite (Fe2O3),

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taconite

[Schmuldvich]

By prima materia I understand the starting matter also called Earth, Corpus, Lead, Saturn, Gold etc
When this prima materia is dissolved by Azoth it forms philosophical mercury (not to be confused with universal mercury)

Notice that in the Golden Chain of Homer our Prima Materia is in the exact middle of the chain; this is a huge elucidation for us!

What this image reveals speaks volumes. We can see that our Materia Prima Omnium Corporum Sublimarium is the result of our [circle with vertical line] and [circle with horizontal line] united together. In other words, the result of the Conjunction of our volatile Salt and fixed Salt is what is called Prima Materia.

I am however confused by the term short path and long path because at the moment I see only one path.

There is only One Path. One Way. One Method of the Ancients. This Universal Path is the "Long Path". The "Short Path" I occasionally mention is merely an Abbreviation of the Long Path.

This Abbreviation can be envisioned in the mind when picturing the process of grafting trees. You cannot graft a tree to another tree if you only have one single tree and not another to graft onto. You must grow out this one single tree before it can have another tree grafted onto it, in other words you must take the Long Path. Once this tree has grown, if we have in our repertoire another tree we would like to graft onto this current tree we can do so, or take the Short Path.

We have to remember though that in order to have this second tree, it has to come from somewhere! Unless gifted to us by another person, the only way to bring this second Tree we want to graft into perfection is to procure it from the One single original tree we started with. Then we can take a shortcut or go down the Short Path if we desire. Without proper Preparation and Maturation occurring first we cannot venture down this quick way of working which is why the Adepts have labeled this hurdle as a Gate one must pass through before a successful accomplishment.