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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    To summarize the previous post:

    Upon careful reading, it becomes reasonably understandable that the time frame of 2-3 hours (ICH) or 3-4 days (Chemical Moonshine) refers in fact to bringing metallic Gold into a tinctural state, AFTER we ALREADY possess the "Universal Tincture". No specific time frame is given (in those texts) for the Work on the Universal Tincture itself.



    So, from the text, it appears that ICH's time-frame of 2-3 hours does not refer to 'Ars Brevis', but only to the fermentation/orientation with gold after having already completed the Universal Tincture (in the 'way of the poor').
    Making metallic tincture of Gold is mentioned in numerous treatises. In all of the, they mention the need to use high temps and throw philosophers stone to molten Gold and wait till the entire thing turns red. High temps by their very nautre is the quickest way to go about.

    Secondly, if you read the context in which he speaks, it becomes obvious that he is talking of preparation of the stone not of fixation of the stone to metallic kingdom. He is substituting tincture for stone when he ought to speak of stone.

    Another question to ask is why is there significant time difference in two treatises for the same operation?

    Therefore Philaletha, when speaking about the preparation of the Tincture from common Gold, says that this by no means is the true path of the wise, namely to achieve the universal medicine. This, because in the dry path the Gold, within 2 to 3 hours, is made pluperfect by means of the universal Tincture, and the tincture is perfected to and from itself in a short time without a lot of tedious work, hence they call this path the short and easy.

    From your translation, it must be asked:
    He speaks of 'Tincture from Common Gold' and then in the same line talks of 'to achieve universal medicine', Why?
    For once you resolve the above, you realise that such an operation is a practical impossibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwellings View Post
    From your translation.
    It's not my translation. While I'm multilingual, this particular translation is not mine, but the 'official' published one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwellings View Post
    He is substituting tincture for stone when he ought to speak of stone.
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwellings View Post
    Secondly, if you read the context in which he speaks, it becomes obvious that he is talking of preparation of the stone not of fixation of the stone to metallic kingdom.
    No.

    It says that in this specific operation, the gold is perfected by the "Universal Tincture" (meaning the stone, previously prepared without the use of gold).

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwellings View Post
    He speaks of 'Tincture from Common Gold' and then in the same line talks of 'to achieve universal medicine', Why?
    For once you resolve the above, you realise that such an operation is a practical impossibility.
    It's not impossible IF the gold is "tinged" by the "tincture" (=stone) so it can, in turn, "tinge" other metals. There are many textual references for this, especially those dealing with orientation.

    According to this text: In the "way of the poor", the Universal Tincture (=stone) is prepared/achieved without the use of gold. This is also referred to as 'The Path of the Wise'. The tincture/stone of this 'poor-path' is then "fermented" with gold, to "perfect" it into a tinctural state.

    I'm basically just saying what the text says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    No.

    It says that in this specific operation, the gold is perfected by the "Universal Tincture" (meaning the stone, previously prepared without the use of gold).
    Indeed, my mistake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    It's not impossible IF the gold is "tinged" by the "tincture" (=stone) so it can, in turn, "tinge" other metals. There are many textual references for this, especially those dealing with orientation.

    According to this text: In the "way of the poor", the Universal Tincture (=stone) is prepared/achieved without the use of gold. This is also referred to as 'The Path of the Wise'. The tincture/stone of this 'poor-path' is then "fermented" with gold, to "perfect" it into a tinctural state.
    Contradictory is what I meant and by taking it at face value, recognizing its practical impossibility. Anyways, we both spoke the same thing, you elaborated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwellings View Post
    Indeed, my mistake.

    Contradictory is what I meant and by taking it at face value, recognizing its practical impossibility. Anyways, we both spoke the same thing, you elaborated it.
    Then all is well

    Thanks!

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    hi
    I wanted to advise all researchers and experimenters of the dry way of the antimony of fulcanelli and canselit lapasse etc
    the new extremely clear and operatively explanatory book of

    LLABRES Georges entitled
    Pratique de la voie Alchimique de Nicolas Flamel a eugene canseliet editions arqa


    in this book of this our dears friends are really interesting his explanations operating from page 31 to page 103 on the diomagnetism and the creation of green vitriol obtained from antimony iron and philosophical salts in relation to the attraction and capture of the lunar rays etc

    we believe that this friends of ours with this book has greatly reduced the unveiling of the alchemical secrecy and that this fits perfectly into the pocesso in act of revealing the alchemical secrets now in place throughout the world on which already widely we posted .

    regards

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    salve

    volevo consigliare a tutti i ricercatori e sperimentatori della via secca dell'antimonio di fulcanelli e canselit lapasse etc
    il nuovo libro estremamente chiaro e operativamente esplicativo di

    LLABRES Georges entitled
    Pratique de la voie Alchimique de Nicolas Flamel a eugene canseliet editions arqa


    in questo libro di questi nostri cari amici sono veramente interessanti le sue spiegazioni operative da pag 31 a pg 103 sul diomagnetismo e la creazione del vetriolo verde ottenuto da antimonio ferro e sali filosofici in relazione all'attrazione e captazione dei raggi lunari etc

    riteniamo che questi nostri amici con questo libro abbia contrifuito enormemente al disvelamento del segreto alchemico e che cio si inserisca a pieno titolo nel pocesso in atto di rivelazione dei segreti alchemici ormai in atto in tutto il mondo su cui gia ampiamente noi abbiano postato .

    regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfr View Post
    hi
    I wanted to advise all researchers and experimenters of the dry way of the antimony of fulcanelli and canselit lapasse etc
    the new extremely clear and operatively explanatory book of

    LLABRES Georges entitled
    Pratique de la voie Alchimique de Nicolas Flamel a eugene canseliet editions arqa


    in this book of this our dear friend are really interesting his explanations operating from page 31 to page 103 on the diomagnetism and the creation of green vitriol obtained from antimony iron and philosophical salts in relation to the attraction and capture of the lunar rays etc

    we believe that this friend of ours with this book has greatly reduced the unveiling of the alchemical secrecy and that this fits perfectly into the pocesso in act of revealing the alchemical secrets now in place throughout the world on which already widely we posted .

    regards

    ----------------------------------

    salve

    volevo consigliare a tutti i ricercatori e sperimentatori della via secca dell'antimonio di fulcanelli e canselit lapasse etc
    il nuovo libro estremamente chiaro e operativamente esplicativo di

    LLABRES Georges entitled
    Pratique de la voie Alchimique de Nicolas Flamel a eugene canseliet editions arqa


    in questo libro di questo nostro caro amico sono veramente interessanti le sue spiegazioni operative da pag 31 a pg 103 sul diomagnetismo e la creazione del vetriolo verde ottenuto da antimonio ferro e sali filosofici in relazione all'attrazione e captazione dei raggi lunari etc

    riteniamo che questo nostro amico con questo libro abbia contrifuito enormemente al disvelamento del segreto alchemico e che cio si inserisca a pieno titolo nel pocesso in atto di rivelazione dei segreti alchemici ormai in atto in tutto il mondo su cui gia ampiamente noi abbiano postato .

    regards
    It can be bought here:

    http://www.editions-arqa.com/edition...hp?article3224

    25 and it seems to be french only. Sounds interesting imo.

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    NEW book of
    LLABRES Georges entitled
    Pratique de la voie Alchemist de Nicolas Flamel at eugene canseliet editions arqa

    AS ANNOYED AND PROMISED THE FIRST FACTS
    FACTS AND NOT ONLY WORDS

    HOW YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A FIRST TEXT OF TARGETED AND CALIBRATED DISPLAY ON ALL THE VARIOUS SECRETS OF ALCHEMICAL THIS TEXT ANALYZE DEVELOPS AND EXPLAINS THE STREET OF THE ANIMONY
    TO THIS FIRST TEXT OUR FRENCH FRIENDS WITH WHICH WE COMMON INTENT TO DISCLOSE TO THE ALCHEMICAL SECRETS AND WHO NOW COLLABORATE WITH US STRICTLY
    THEY WILL BE SOON TO FOLLOW UNITARILY IN THE COMMON PROJECT THAT SEEKS US FOR A TOTAL CALIBRATED AND TARGET DISCLOSED AND EXPLAINED OF THE DIFFEREN SECRET ALCHEMICAL
    AND FOR DEVELLOPPING THIS PROGET TO SOON THEY MADE THE PUBBLICATIONS INTEGRAL OF THE DIARY OF LABORATORY WORK THE ARE BASED ON THE INSTRUCTIONS OF JP DUJOL AND HENRY COTTON ALVARE WHO WERE THE MEMBERS AND DIRECTIVE EXPONENTS OF THE SECRET CENACLE OF FULCANELLI
    further to these operational journals within the alchemical dissemination project this autumn will jointly follow that also a manuscript on the various alchemical human animal substances elixir phil with sperm and its red crystal obtained from it AND ALL THE ALCHEMICAL INSTRUCTION FOR HAVE IT... as well as the alchemical use of other substances of the alchemy human animal etc all this will be published with photos of the work done and the operational explanations of the various methods used so expect and see facts and not words ...

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