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    Symbols of the Dry Path

    We all know that every Alchemist had his own way of working his way to the Stone that's for sure but surprisingly they all used the same symbols but with different intention. By comparing various symbols and how they are intepreted in a classical Dry Path many mistakes are becoming so obvious.

    In Daniele Ferrero scheme of the Great Work the Warrior wielding the magical steel of the Sages is identified with the common iron fillings! How can this be correct interpretation? The magical steel of the Sages or the Sword should be the active piercing agent which is that of salt! Where is active agent to be found in common iron?
    By salt in this case Nitre+Tartar was meant but my point is that Ares or Warrior can't be just plain rusty iron but the alkahest of the Dry Path, the agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    We all know that every Alchemist had his own way of working his way to the Stone that's for sure but surprisingly they all used the same symbols but with different intention. By comparing various symbols and how they are intepreted in a classical Dry Path many mistakes are becoming so obvious.

    In Daniele Ferrero scheme of the Great Work the Warrior wielding the magical steel of the Sages is identified with the common iron fillings! How can this be correct interpretation? The magical steel of the Sages or the Sword should be the active piercing agent which is that of salt! Where is active agent to be found in common iron?
    By salt in this case Nitre+Tartar was meant but my point is that Ares or Warrior can't be just plain rusty iron but the alkahest of the Dry Path, the agent.

    Hmmm... no. Many seekers had their own interpretations and theories on how the Stone was made, sure, but that doesn't mean these were any supposed "paths". In fact, most such speculations are "blind alleys", not "paths" to the Stone. All REAL "paths" to the Stone have one thing in common: THE SECRET SOLVENT. Without this there are no "paths" in alchemy, only dead-ends.

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    I agree the warrior with the sword holds a piercing/cutting agent which dismembers the old king or dragon. Modern Alchemical books are not worth reading in my opinion all of them are crap!

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    Which means means that all 3 of us (including JDP) agree that Ares or Warrior represents penetetrating solvent or Alkahest and not common Iron. That is a good start. I am reading through Atalanta Fugiens in search for confirmation Ares/Warrior = secret salt.

    In the meantime admire the symbolic representation of the Great Work here:
    http://www.labirintoermetico.com/01A...ande_opera.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    Which means means that all 3 of us (including JDP) agree that Ares or Warrior represents penetetrating solvent or Alkahest and not common Iron. That is a good start. I am reading through Atalanta Fugiens in search for confirmation Ares/Warrior = secret salt.

    In the meantime admire the symbolic representation of the Great Work here:
    http://www.labirintoermetico.com/01A...ande_opera.pdf
    The guy who wrote that "scheme" is being fooled by the antimonial interpretations (like those of Canseliet) of the semi-cryptic description that Fulcanelli makes in his Dwellings of the Philosophers, namely this one:

    If you want to possess the griffin --- which is our astral stone --- by tearing it from its arsenical ganque, take two parts of virgin earth, our scaly dragon, and one part of the igneous agent, which is that valiant knight armed with the lance and shield. Ares, more vigorous than Aries, must be in a lesser quantity. Pulverize and add the fifteenth part of this pure, white, admirable salt, washed and crystallized several times, which you must necessarily know. Intimately mix it; and then, following the example of the painful Passion of Our Lord, crucify it with three iron nails, so that the body dies and can then be resurrected. This done, drive away the coarsest sediments from the corpse; crush and triturate the bones; mix the whole thing on a slow heat with a steel rod. Then throw into this mixture half of this second salt, extracted from the dew that fertilizes the earth in the month of May, and you will obtain a body clearer than the preceding one. Repeat the same technique three times; you will reach the matrix of our mercury, and you will have climbed the first rung of the ladder of the sages.

    The "Canselietists" (for lack of a better term) interpret the decknamen in this passage as follows:

    "virgin earth", "our scaly dragon", "Aries" = stibnite

    "the igneous agent", the "valiant knight armed with the lance and shield", "Ares" = iron

    the "white, admirable salt, washed and crystallized several times" = saltpeter

    the "second salt, extracted from the dew that fertilizes the earth in the month of May" = tartar (or a mix of tartar and saltpeter), sometimes dissolved and crystallized from actual, literal (vulgar) dew (which actually makes ZERO difference in the end than just using the more "mundane" products)

    Of course, the only thing that is produced from such an operation is just plain regulus of antimony and ferrous & alkaline sulphurous slags (which float on top of the regulus.) There is nothing remotely "secret" about this EXTREMELY VULGAR operation, already clearly described in dozens of chymical and spagyric books from several hundred years ago. Plus the resulting regulus does not conform to the descriptions of the "griffin" that Fulcanelli himself makes. To top it all of, Fulcanelli himself blasts stibnite and its regulus as useless for making either the secret solvent or the Stone itself. Bizarrely, none of these facts seem to bother the "Canselietists", who keep on falling for the regulus of antimony ruse over and over and over, just like their leader Canseliet did, and never get anywhere, just like their leader.

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    I agree that Stibnite and Antimony doesn't resemble the foliated earth matrix described by Fulcanelli and other philosophers like Michael Maier. Correct identification of Griffin is yet another mystery which requires carefull and deep study. Paying attention to mineral crystal habit is a good start but even today with the help of internet it is not easy, i am torn between 5 or 6 minerals. It appears that Griffin as a raw matter and in purified form displays the same foliated crystaline layers like italian dish Lasagne.

    From Atalanta fugiens emblem 6:

    Hence the Philosophers affirm it to be sowed in White foliated Earth, as if they would have said that the sowing of Wheat must be looked upon as an example & consequently imitated. Which the Author of Tractatus de tritico & Jodoc Greverus have most excellently performed in their Descriptions for they have very elegantly adapted each Operation of Husbandry in the production of Corn to the Semination of Gold & the generation of the Tincture. White Earth as being Sandy yields little fruit to the Countrymen who esteem that which is black as being fattest. But the other is of most Value to the Philosophers if it be foliated, that is, well prepared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    I agree that Stibnite and Antimony doesn't resemble the foliated earth matrix described by Fulcanelli and other philosophers like Michael Maier. Correct identification of Griffin is yet another mystery which requires carefull and deep study. Paying attention to mineral crystal habit is a good start but even today with the help of internet it is not easy, i am torn between 5 or 6 minerals. It appears that Griffin as a raw matter and in purified form displays the same foliated crystaline layers like italian dish Lasagne.

    From Atalanta fugiens emblem 6:

    Hence the Philosophers affirm it to be sowed in White foliated Earth, as if they would have said that the sowing of Wheat must be looked upon as an example & consequently imitated. Which the Author of Tractatus de tritico & Jodoc Greverus have most excellently performed in their Descriptions for they have very elegantly adapted each Operation of Husbandry in the production of Corn to the Semination of Gold & the generation of the Tincture. White Earth as being Sandy yields little fruit to the Countrymen who esteem that which is black as being fattest. But the other is of most Value to the Philosophers if it be foliated, that is, well prepared.
    Keep in mind that for Fulcanelli the "griffin" is not a naturally occurring product, but an artificial substance "born" out of that "combat" or interaction between the at least 4 separate starting substances he describes and mentions under decknamen.

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    In this quote from Fulcanelli you are right. Here he talks about prepared foliated earth:



    In this second quote i think he talks about raw, black mineral in unprepared state:



    Which means that the Griffin is at all times like a book or lasagne either prepared or unprepared.
    Last edited by True Initiate; 02-27-2018 at 04:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    In this quote from Fulcanelli you are right. Here he talks about prepared foliated earth:



    In this second quote i think he talks about raw, black mineral in unprepared state:



    Which means that the Griffin is in all times like a book or lasagne.
    But the mineral "dragon" is only part of the "griffin", not the whole of it:

    We recognize in this motif one of the major emblems of the science, one which covers the preparation of the raw materials of the Work. While the combat between the dragon and the knight signifies the initial encounter, the duel of the mineral products trying to defend their threatened integrity, the griffin marks the result of the operation, veiled moreover by myths variously expressed, but all showing the characteristics of incompatibility, of natural and profound aversion which the substances in contact have for on another.

    The combination of the two initial matters, one volatile, the other fixed, produces a third body, fixed, which marks the first stage of the stone of the philosophers. Such is, we have said, the griffin, half eagle, half lion, a symbol which corresponds to the basket of Bacchus and the fish of Christian iconography. Indeed we must point out that the griffin bears, instead of a lion’s mane or a necklace of feathers, a crest of fish fins. This detail has its importance. For if it is expedient to provoke the encounter and dominate the fight, one must still discover the means of capturing the pure, essential part of the newly produced body, the only one useful to us; in other words, the philosophical mercury.

    If we look for some secret meaning attached to the Greek word gryps, griffin, which has for root grypos, that is to say, "to have a crooked beak", we will find a related word, griphos,whose sound comes much closer to our French word. Furthermore, griphos means both an enigma and a net. We then see how the fabulous animal contains, in image and in name, the most difficult hermetic enigma to be discovered, that of the philosophical mercury, whose substance, deeply hidden in the body, is caught like a fish in water with the help of an appropriate net.


    Fulcanelli uses the "griffin" as a code-word for the "philosophical mercury", which is not found anywhere in nature already made, it has to be made by the alchemist himself.

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    I understand that phi. mercury is a prepared substance but it appears that the starting mineral matter exhibits the same layered crystaline structure. I think Fulcanelli in the quotes you posted about catching a fish in the net corresponds to this operation:

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