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Thread: The Vow of the Hand of the Philosophers

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    Quote Originally Posted by elixirmixer View Post
    using limestone to create salt-petre
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    "Preface" by Eugenius Philalethes, 1657


    When he speaks of rain and dew I am contented to think, he means something else than what is vulgarly so called.

    And I doubt not but his Salt petri is something different from that which is combustible and common.

    The Philosophers Dew, if I know it at all is a dry water, and their salt-peter is a most white incombustible body of a gummy aerial nature, and indeed, if my eyes have not deceived me, it is so aerial and unctuous that it will no more mingle with water than common oil will.

    I have for trial taken it in its gross body, and putting it in distilled rain water have digested it for a full fortnight, without the addition of any third thing, but they would never mix, the Nitre notwithstanding many long and violent agitations of the glass, keeping still apart in the form of butter or oil more white than snow.

    The truth is there is no affinity between this Salt-peter and water, for it is not made of water, but of air hid and condensed in water.

    We see also that the air is a dry spirit and wets nothing; but the mist or vapor of the water incorporating with the air wets all things.

    Even so those bodies or substances which are generated of air retain the first complexion of their parents; this dry aerial humidity being predominant in them as is evident in common quicksilver and in all resinous substances, as vegetable and mineral gums which will not mix with water.

    But this will not be more apparent to those who know that universal gum or sperm whereof Nitre is made, which is neither Dew nor Rain, but a water and no water; that is it is a dry water whereof see D’Espagnet in the 49 the canon of his first aphoristical part.

    Here is the reason then why Nitre Philosophical will not dissolve in nor mix with common water; for it is a fat, oleous, airy substance, made by natural congelation of a mercurial dry humidity which separates from phlegm, as is evident in that succus vitalis and great Lunary of Lully.
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    But this will not be more apparent to those who know that universal gum or sperm whereof Nitre is made, which is neither Dew nor Rain, but a water and no water; that is it is a dry water whereof see D’Espagnet in the 49 the canon of his first aphoristical part.
    Reflection on this, through a new looking glass reveals something intrinsically deceptive about the way philosophers write. The clues are in there, but never where you expect to see them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon's Tail View Post
    Reflection on this, through a new looking glass reveals something intrinsically deceptive about the way philosophers write. The clues are in there, but never where you expect to see them
    Perhaps we need a urim and thummim looking glass ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Perhaps we need a urim and thummim looking glass ???
    Nope, just "different." Same glass, our common glass, different prescription

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    Some more info on 'the hand' at this link: http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...osopher-s-Hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Perhaps we need a urim and thummim looking glass ???
    I percieve the urin and thummin as the white and red stones. What do you think Black?
    Join me; on a voyage of stupidity, and self discovery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vccZSHroTG4

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    Hi Mr. Mixer

    Quote Originally Posted by elixirmixer View Post
    I percieve the urin and thummin as the white and red stones. What do you think Black?
    Could be a possibility.

    From Wiki
    According to Latter Day Saint theology, seer stones were stones that were sacred gifts from God.
    They are believed to have been used by Joseph Smith, as well as ancient prophets, to receive revelations from God.
    Seer stones are mentioned in the Book of Mormon in the Book of Mosiah, where they are also called "interpreters" and described as being used by seers to translate and receive revelations.
    The term "Urim and Thummim" is usually used by Latter Day Saints members to refer to the "interpreters" mentioned in the Book of Mormon. Some Latter Day Saints use the term Urim and Thummim and seer stones interchangeably.

    Also from Wiki
    The Urim and the Thummim first appear in Exodus 28:30, where they are named for inclusion on the breastplate to be worn by Aaron in the holy place. Other books, especially 1 Samuel, describe their use in divination.

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    My point exactly...
    Join me; on a voyage of stupidity, and self discovery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vccZSHroTG4

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