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Thread: Routine Potassium Check-up

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    Thanks for your very interesting input, z0 k!

    Do you provide a special artificial environment of dry atmosphere to make the salt evaporate or deliquesce? I can't remember reading about this in your book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florius Frammel View Post
    Thanks for your very interesting input, z0 k!

    Do you provide a special artificial environment of dry atmosphere to make the salt evaporate or deliquesce? I can't remember reading about this in your book.
    I live in a very dry atmosphere in the Southwest US and Sal Armoniac will liquefy and evaporate when it is not fixed. I keep it sealed in a jar in the fridge for storage until the final sublimation. After the final sublimation It will still eventually evaporate in the dry open air so I keep it in the fridge until needed. Over time in the fridge the fixed Sal Armoniac will turn a little yellow and get a little watery but you can use it like that for plant Quintessences. The stuff is very precious so you don't want to sublime it too many times as it will lose volume. You need quite a bit of it for mineral work on metals. Ripley says that you will need to put another Chaos into the oven as soon as you take one out in order to get enough of the Elements to proceed to the White and the Red.

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    Interesting!
    Do you know how it behaves if you put it in a "well luted" pelican? I bet it's quite a pleasure to view that, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florius Frammel View Post
    Interesting!
    Do you know how it behaves if you put it in a "well luted" pelican? I bet it's quite a pleasure to view that, isn't it?
    Yes it is a pleasure to view when sublimed into a helmet. Though for ease of collection I prefer to sublime it into the mouth of an ice water cooled condenser.

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    Sorry for another newbie question, what is the meaning of Sublimation?
    Last edited by Seraphim; 4 Weeks Ago at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Sorry for another newbie question, what is the meaning of Sublimation?
    The usual meaning is volatilizing a substance (usually a solid), and then condensing it back to a solid substance. Example: making cinnabar by mixing sulfur and mercury (which forms a black powder), heating this mixture, and obtaining a red volatile solid substance (mercuric sulfide, or cinnabar)

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    Quote Originally Posted by z0 K View Post
    Sal ammoniac made artificially by reacting hydrochloric acid and ammonia is not Philosophical Sal Armoniac which is obtained from plants or animals. I know of experiments where commercial ammonium carbonate was used as substitute for vegetable Sal Armoniac and it did not perform the same. The commercial preparations made by common chemical reactions are devoid of Sulfur/Fire and Mercury/Water which cannot be completely removed but need to be separated out as much as possible before the recombination into the Stone.
    This is exactly why buying store-bought chemicals as starting materials is futile in our Work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmuldvich View Post
    This is exactly why buying store-bought chemicals as starting materials is futile in our Work.
    Have you tried out everything yet?
    Or are you just repeating others? For example you can get glass of antimony if you add small quantities of sand to stibnite (see my glass of antimony thread) as a "natural impurity".

    If it wasn't just a careless mistake, I have another explanation why what z 0k heard didn't work.

    The reaction of hydrochloric acid and ammonia results in a salt named ammonia chloride. It needs relatively high temps to dissociate compared with ammonia carbonate, which dissociates at approx. 60C and which can't be made with hydrochloric acid this way.

    Other members don't have problems with store-bought stuff either:

    http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...7894#post37894
    Last edited by Florius Frammel; 3 Weeks Ago at 06:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florius Frammel View Post
    Have you tried out everything yet?
    Or are you just repeating others? For example you can get glass of antimony if you add small quantities of sand to stibnite (see my glass of antimony thread) as a "natural impurity".

    If it wasn't just a careless mistake, I have another explanation why what z 0k heard didn't work.

    The reaction of hydrochloric acid and ammonia results in a salt named ammonia chloride. It needs relatively high temps to dissociate compared with ammonia carbonate, which dissociates at approx. 60C and which can't be made with hydrochloric acid this way.

    Other members don't have problems with store-bought stuff either:

    http://forum.alchemyforums.com/showt...7894#post37894
    I agree with you about the ammonium chloride chemistry. I don't know French in reference to the link post of Salazius but tartar salt volatilization I've never done using store bought chemicals. I've done it using the calcined ash water soluble salts of grape wine distilled with the purified vegetable Fire which has Sal Armoniac present in it that was gained from the pyrolysis of the dregs after the ethanol and water were distilled out. Not all of the fixed salts sublime. The ones that did formed three different crystalline structures.

    I do not know of anyone that has succeeded in making a true Circulatum Minus.

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