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    The Last Air Bender

    I slept today, and not being able to sleep, I watched this film from NetFlix. It had shades of The Never-Ending Story, with a white hairy buffalo-looking flying creature, reminiscent of the Luck Dragon. There were Northern and Southern cities, reminiscent of the Northern and Southern Oracles, and of course, a fight of Good against Evil.

    But, interestingly enough, its Tolkien-like warlords denoted an alchemical theme. The tribal societies of Air, Water, Earth and Fire, once in balance by the presence of a reincarnated Avatar (kind of like Atrayu in The Never-Ending Story), who vanished one day. During the 100 years of his absence, while suspended in ice, the lords of the Fire element, the Fire-Benders, declared fire-bending in all the other elements to be illegal while they dominated the other elements. The young Avatar, who had been trapped in ice before he could learn to bend the other elements with Kung-Fu-like movements which evoked them, was alone able to command and balance all the elements. He embodied the Quintessential 5th element.

    The film is still playing as I type this, so I'll sign off to watch the ending.
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    The Fountain is a very good film with 3 separate story lines that are intertwined and all of the stories have alchemical connections. One is the search for the tree of life, another is about the universal medicine, and the last is concerning the universe..

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_fountain/
    Still Searching.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkostheGnostic View Post
    I slept today, and not being able to sleep, I watched this film from NetFlix. It had shades of The Never-Ending Story, with a white hairy buffalo-looking flying creature, reminiscent of the Luck Dragon. There were Northern and Southern cities, reminiscent of the Northern and Southern Oracles, and of course, a fight of Good against Evil.

    But, interestingly enough, its Tolkien-like warlords denoted an alchemical theme. The tribal societies of Air, Water, Earth and Fire, once in balance by the presence of a reincarnated Avatar (kind of like Atrayu in The Never-Ending Story), who vanished one day. During the 100 years of his absence, while suspended in ice, the lords of the Fire element, the Fire-Benders, declared fire-bending in all the other elements to be illegal while they dominated the other elements. The young Avatar, who had been trapped in ice before he could learn to bend the other elements with Kung-Fu-like movements which evoked them, was alone able to command and balance all the elements. He embodied the Quintessential 5th element.

    The film is still playing as I type this, so I'll sign off to watch the ending.

    The animé of that was better than the movie. Infact, the movie sucked in comparison, but the special effects were ok.
    Because the animé is where the story came from, its more indepth and covers quite a bit more than the movie could hope to. When he (the avatar) has to learn fire... well, its really interesting - i mean each element was interesting, but the fire element especially. Far more allegory and symbolism in the animé show.

    If you like the movie, you'll love the show - i recommend it.



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    Thanks for the response, and I agree that it sucked but the effects were cool. Probably not gonna watch the animé any time soon.

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    Jodorowsky was mentioned... I would say that all his films are alchemical films (my own favorite is "Santa Sangre" and "Holy Mountain" comed second).

    Kenneth Anger should be mentioned too, even if you don''t like Thelema (in my own case, I don't specially like or have any kind of interest in Thelema, but I can't deny he is a genius).

    Derek Jarman's "The Angelic Conversation" was mostly planned following nine alchemical steps, so it's worth watching (it is also quite an experimental "queer movie", so some people may not enjoy it, I have no idea.. in my own case, I do love it and I'm not even gay myself).

    A very interesting movie is "The Dark Crystal"... which is actually a movie for little kids... and yet it is incredibly related to alchemy in quite an explicit way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoas23 View Post

    A very interesting movie is "The Dark Crystal"... which is actually a movie for little kids... and yet it is incredibly related to alchemy in quite an explicit way.
    In the vein of kid's films, also "the never-ending story" and "labyrinth" I found very enlightening.
    Especially striking in "Labyrinth" was when she takes a bite of the fruit and forgets and she
    returns to a dream-state version of her home/house and a "demon" is trying to keep her
    comfortable and from remembering by giving her all the "toys" and distractions she was fond of.
    Such is the state of man, forgetting the "one most important thing" we came here to do: to wake up,
    to "escape from prison".
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    Quote Originally Posted by solomon levi View Post
    Such is the state of man, forgetting the "one most important thing" we came here to do: to wake up, to "escape from prison".
    Re-quoting Captain Picard from a different thread:

    "The first duty of the prisoner is to escape."
    I myself am feeling increasingly uncomfortable in this 'prison' of flesh and physical matter in general.

    On the other hand - I am neither escapist nor suicidal... Hmm... Quite a dilemma

    There sure are ways to escape this 'prison' up to a point, as much as it is possible within the design.

    SO, IMO, there is no FULL escape from this PARTICULAR prison while still physically incarnated... But I would surely like to be proven wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    Re-quoting Captain Picard from a different thread:



    I myself am feeling increasingly uncomfortable in this 'prison' of flesh and physical matter in general.

    On the other hand - I am neither escapist nor suicidal... Hmm... Quite a dilemma

    There sure are ways to escape this 'prison' up to a point, as much as it is possible within the design.

    SO, IMO, there is no FULL escape from this PARTICULAR prison while still physically incarnated... But I would surely like to be proven wrong

    Yeah, I'm wouldn't consider myself escapist or suicidal either - I've contemplated suicide, but never to the point
    where I could see myself actually do it or try it. I guess that's escapist in a way, to contemplate suicide as an option.
    I mean to say I do not agree with escapism - of course I have struggled with it. Every moment we are not fully
    alive and present we are escapists a la Krishnamurti.
    Another interesting line in the "Waking Life" was something to the effect of time being the result of saying 'no'
    to God's invitation to unify with it.

    For me the body and flesh are not (yet?) the problem. I'm desiring mental and psychological freedom. I still
    agree with my observations of thought being the only problem - things aren't problems until we think about them.
    There's nothing lacking in THIS until we think. I guess I'm still holding on to some ideal state of Castaneda's
    controlled folly where everything would be fun and a game. Most probably, this is my mistaken definition,
    just as people have mistakenly identified enlightenment as eternal happiness. To me, enlightenment is the
    absence of the false ego centered view which would interpret something as happy or unhappy. The actual situation
    may be one of pain or somethng crappy we've experienced a hundred times before, but due to the missing experiencer,
    it is not perceived as pain or crappy.

    I recently realised that my personal understanding which I have called 'relative objectivity' is synonymous with
    controlled folly. Folly is subjectivity, or relativity - nothing objectively real - and control is the objective measure
    we apply to the relative and subjective. That is, there is the appearance of control/objectivity as long as we hold one
    consistent aim.
    I developed my understanding of 'relative objectivity' so as not to argue with the quantum view that everything is
    subjective - our observation necessarily alters what we observe, therefore there is no objectivity. Ok, fine. But there
    are 'frames' which are relatively more objective/impersonal than other frames - hence relative objectivity.
    Relative objectivity is "the bigger picture", the more-encompassing awareness. Of course, as long as it is a frame,
    it is not the whole, the One, the true Subject, so in that view who cares if one frame is more objective than another -
    it's all relative. But in general, the bigger picture, or relative objectivity, has been my guide towards truth, even though
    I know truth is not a picture. So am I wasting my time? No matter how much we control our folly, it is still folly.
    The sorcerers' description, while providing relative freedom from the average man's description, is still a description.

    So does my bigger picture just lead to inertia, to 'what the hell', to 'why bother?'.
    Castaneda compensated for that by saying we must strive to comprehend the mystery without ever hoping to fully do so.
    I don't know. There's not much 'strive' in me lately.
    http://serpentrioarquila.blogspot.com/

    "To conjure is nothing else than to observe anything rightly, to know and understand what it is." - Paracelsus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androgynus View Post
    I myself am feeling increasingly uncomfortable in this 'prison' of flesh and physical matter in general.
    Is this not just like an aqualung and wet suit for diving into the mysteries of the deep?
    Perhaps if the flesh and physical matter is removed your movement here will be restricted.

    Quote Originally Posted by solomon levi View Post
    There's not much 'strive' in me lately
    Multi vitamins and some early nights Sol

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