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Thread: Thesaurus Thesaurorum et Secretus Secretisimus

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoas23 View Post
    Some context:

    "apparebit color viridis, quid vocatur secundum hermetem, beata viriditas, Dunech viride, Vas Hermetis Viride, Fixum et Volatile in uno corpore, "

    "(they have arrived to some salts which) will show themselves in a green colour and they are often called Second Hermes, Holy Greenes, Green Dunech, Green Hermetic Vessel, Fixed and Volatile in one body, [the symbol]..."
    The Green Dunech is the Green Lion which is The Prima Materia, it is volatile, it's a gas at room temperature but you can liquify it with a liquid nitrogen and methanol cold bath. It can also be fixed into a green solid (green crystals) or a green liquid by various means. Once the Prima Materia is fixed into a solid or liquid at room temperature it is called the Green Lion.
    Last edited by Uncle Scrooge; 4 Weeks Ago at 09:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Scrooge View Post
    The Green Dunech is the Green Lion which is The Prima Materia, it is volatile, it's a gas at room temperature but you can liquify it with a liquid nitrogen and methanol cold bath. It can also be fixed into a green solid (green crystals) or a green liquid by various means. Once the Prima Materia is fixed into a solid or liquid at room temperature it is called the Green Lion.
    You are right.. it's a "nebula" (a cloud) in this book and it has to be fixed into these green salts.
    It seems we have found your twin brother, that's quite surprising.

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    That's interesting, it's almost as if I wrote it myself.
    Last edited by Uncle Scrooge; 4 Weeks Ago at 03:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Scrooge View Post
    it's a gas at room temperature but you can liquefy it with a liquid nitrogen and methanol cold bath.
    Have you contemplated possible ways of permanently fixing Hydrogen in a liquid state without having to resort to Liquid Nitrogen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Have you contemplated possible ways of permanently fixing Hydrogen in a liquid state without having to resort to Liquid Nitrogen?
    A version of elemental hydrogen that's liquid anywhere near room temperature or standard air pressure is not officially known. In fact elemental hydrogen has a very low boiling point far sub zero C.

    I would not exclude the possibility 100%, but
    there might be other explanations possible if some analyses might indicate such an interpretation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Have you contemplated possible ways of permanently fixing Hydrogen in a liquid state without having to resort to Liquid Nitrogen?
    Is there a reason why you stress on Hydrogen ? Whatever this highly volatile gas might be or composed of, it certainly couldn't be fixed or liquified under such conditions in older times, although simple freezing mixtures were commonly known in these times. Actually the description might hint to the Athoeter of Saint Germain, the famous Alkahest, SVP (spiritus vini philosophici), Dew or other similar but mysterious liquids with seemingly low boiling points, however in no case such gases that might afford a ultra low freezing mixture composed by liquid nitrogen and such.

    There was a time when I thought that Ketene could fulfill this description ... however, partially only ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weidenfeld View Post
    Is there a reason why you stress on Hydrogen?
    Because the post was addressed to Uncle Scrooge and he was the one who brought Hydrogen up in the "Prima Materia" context (on a different thread).
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