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    If we're already talking about the "Dragon" (also mentioned by Cyliany and with similar characteristics such as "toxic breath, etc.), he is an excerpt from Labyrinth Designers:

    This primal substance has seen its evolution interrupted by the interposition and penetration of a filthy combustible sulphur, which coats its pure mercury, holds it back, and coagulates it. And, though it is entirely volatile, this primitive mercurius , materialized by the drying action of the arsenical sulphur, takes the shape of a solid, black, dense, fibrous, brittle, crushable mass rendered, by its lack of utility, vile, abject, and despicable in the eyes of man. Yet, in this subject ~ poor relative of the metal family ~ the enlightened artist finds everything that he needs to begin and perfect his Great Work, since it is present, say the authors, at the beginning, the middle, and the end of the Work. ……. our subject contains a frightful poison whose very odor would suffice to cause death. Yet it is from this toxic mineral that the universal medicine is made, which no human illness can resist, no matter how incurable it is thought to be. But that which gives it all its value and makes it infinitely precious in the eyes of the sage is the admirable virtue it possesses, of revivifying metals that have been reduced and molten and of losing its poisonous properties by granting them its own activity. And so it does appear to be the instrument of resurrection, and of redemption of the metallic bodies, dead by violence of a reducing fire, the reason for which it bears in its coat of arms, the sign of the Redeemer, the cross.”
    Full text HERE.

    It's also worth noting that according to some sources, Cyliani was (allegedly) one of Fulcanelli's teachers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf View Post
    LOL! I may be old, but not THAT old!
    Especially if we consider that Fulcanelli may have been, uhm, may be Flamel (as some like to believe)!

    I wouldn't really call it "expertise", but just "familiarity".
    Let me rephrase my previous statement then:

    Ok ok, nobody doubts your familiarity!

    Nice try :-)
    Nice reply! But... Why am I not surprised? 🤨

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florius Frammel View Post
    While pondering about what that matter is, I highly recommend reading this fairy tale:

    Donkeyskin

    Its origin is the origin of both the saturnalian habit of Paris' donkey procession and the Goldesel.

    BTW Michael, is it still common in your region to crown a "Bohnenkönig" on Jan 6th?
    Of course we in Switzerland keep that lovely ancient tradition alive! Even though the bean in the cake that makes you king for a day is replaced by a tiny plastic figure nowadays, and the cake conveniently comes packed with a crown made of real gold (paper).

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    That is imo a very nice alchemical tradition.

    It's the same like Donkeyskin's ring, that fell into the cake and the

    Galette de Rois

    whose puff pasty (foliated earth) also has a "scaled" surface.


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    What is specifically alchemical about it? (Save for Aristocratic symbolism generally being employed in the royal art.)
    Last edited by Michael Sternbach; 4 Weeks Ago at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Sternbach View Post
    What is specifically alchemical about it? (Save for Aristocratic smbolism generally being employed in the royal art.)
    As Florius stated - the key is the description of the scales (it describes the Remora). Fulcanelli mentions this cake in his book:

    "Of an earthy rather than metallic appearance, this light button, not fusible but very soluble, hard, breakable, friable, black on one side, whitish on the other, violet at its breaking point, has received several names relative to its form, its coloration, or to certain of its chemical idiosyncrasies. It is the secret prototype of the popular bather of the cake of the kings, the charm, (kymanos), paronym of (kyanos, bluish-black), the sabot or wooden shoe (bembex); it is also the cocoon (bombykion) and its worm, whose Greek name, (bombex), is so similar to that of sabot, which has for root (bombos), precisely expressing the sound of a spinning top. It is also the small blackish fish called chabot from which Perrault derived his Chat botte. The famous Marquis of Carabas, from (Kara), head and (basileus), king, of the hermetic legends dear to our youth and gathered under the title, Tales of Our Mother Goose, also has relevance; it is, finally, the basil of the fable --- (basilikon) --- our regulus (little king) or kinglet (basiliskos), the fur slipper (because it is white and grey) of the humble Cinderella, the sole, the flat fish of which each side is differently colored and whose name is related to sun (Latin sol, solis), etc. In the oral tradition of the Adepts, however, this body is usually called by the term violet, the first flower that the sage can see being born and blooming during the springtime of the Work, transforming into a new color the green of its flower bed... "

    "Cake of the kings" is, of course, the English translation of "Galette de Rois".

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    So according to Fulcanelli, the cake represents the matter of the Opus Magnum? If that assumption is correct, the bean (hidden in the cake) could symbolize the essence of the matter aka the Philosopher's Stone. Just like the former 'turns a peasant into a king', the latter transmutes a base metal into gold.

    What say you?

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    It's literally a "multi-layered" symbol.

    Fulcanelli also said on some occassions he had seen an oak (also symbol for the tree of knowledge of good and evil) instead of the pattern on the cake.

    See for example this version of the images from the book of Abraham dem Juden:


    The french call the bean dauphin (heir to the throne) and it sounds like "dolphin", an animal often used in alchemical images and texts. For example Diana rides it on the famous VITRIOL image.



    This dolphin is for example the fish(sic!) that is fished by the man on one tile on the oven in Winterthur,



    or on one page of the Mutus Liber:



    Note that the bean also represents Jesus. He is not yet the messiah on the cross (again?), but still a newborn baby, that is visited by the three wise men on epiphany.

    The foliated earth however, according to Jean-Petri Fabre is obtained when our mercury interacts with a metal.
    Last edited by Andro; 4 Weeks Ago at 03:18 PM. Reason: "Dauphin" spelling :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    It's also worth noting that according to some sources, Cyliani was (allegedly) one of Fulcanelli's teachers...
    Some years ago Green Lion made this assumptions on the lineage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Green Lion
    The author of Compass of the Wise was the Master of Cyliani.
    Cyliani was the Master of Dr. G. Perard.
    G. Perard was the Master of A.L. Gerber.
    And A.L. Gerber was one of the Masters of ... Fulcanelli
    I wonder where he got his informations from. Canseliet however says that his master Fulcanelli got initiated by Basilius Valentinus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Florius Frammel View Post
    Some years ago Green Lion made this assumptions on the lineage.

    I wonder where he got his informations from. Canseliet however says that his master Fulcanelli got initiated by Basilius Valentinus.
    Well, the quote makes the alleged claim that Gerbant (of the ICH/Cyliani lineage) was just ONE of the initiators of Fulcanelli... Basilus may have been another one

    I wonder if there are any official and reliable death records for the ones in this lineage who didn't use pseudonyms...

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