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Thread: "Opposite George" - Should We Become Biblical Contrarians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    ...should maybe be interpreted as the opposite of what they say?
    I agree with that. For instance: Thou shall eat the fruit!

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    The Abrahamic religious texts are filled with apparent contradictions on Gods character.
    El, Yahweh , Ashtoreth, Canaanites deities that absorbed each others qualities eventually becoming God and Mary.
    To the early Greeks El becomes Saturn/Kronos, Yahweh becomes Zeus who becomes King of the gods by marriage to the Queen of Heaven Ashtoreth, who is Hera to the Greeks.
    The texts contradict because they are attributed to One God not a collection of earlier deities. Seeing this you can start to tell one deity from the other.

    You shall not boil a young goat in its motherís milk". And yet, isn't this is what the good Alchemical texts are at least implying?
    Not make a meat stew give an offering of firstfruit instead. Why displeased with Cains offering then ? different deity.
    The alchemist saw the meat stew and was more interested in the goats milk. Which was earlier associated with Zeus.

    The subject must be digested in it's own Radical Humidity, in the same "Water" that gave it birth, which is by no means foreign to it.
    Spot on. Then it's radical humidity has to naturally dry up. Black stone. Right in the middle of all Abrahamic religions. Misunderstood.

    What a wide-spread and destructive error to confuse that abrahamic, psychopatic, jealous, chauvinistic, racist, homophobic & easily triggered (snowflake) self-proclaimed "god" - with "The "Mystery" (a much more accurate term, often used by Awani).
    A collection of good and bad deities with different qualities. People seem to love to blame the Abrahamic God as one being just as intended really.
    Having a one God say and do contrary things that a collection of earlier deities did, means you can have your religion appeal to all people with differing views.
    Its how the trick of monotheistic worship works. You just co opt the previous pagan worship and place all the contrary qualities under one God.

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    Any of you occultist/new ageers ever hear of PaRDeS? The P, R, D, S, are the initials of the 4 different way of reading bible. (Pardes meaning garden fruit)
    1, literal sense
    2, allegorical way
    3, midrashic/rabbinic sense
    4, esoteric sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    I think God is not psychopath, that is blasphem... bible has to be' interprete. If we may breath its only because of him-her-it-whatever
    Matthew 12:30-32
    30 The one who is not with me is against me, and the one who does not gather with me scatters. 31 For this reason I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven! 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him either in this age or in the coming one!

    1 John 4:12-13
    12 For though we have never yet seen God, when we love each other God lives in us, and His love within us grows ever stronger. 13 And He has put His own Holy Spirit into our hearts as a proof to us that we are living with Him and He with us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    Any of you occultist/new ageers ever hear of PaRDeS? The P, R, D, S, are the initials of the 4 different way of reading bible. (Pardes meaning garden fruit)
    1, literal sense
    2, allegorical way
    3, midrashic/rabbinic sense
    4, esoteric sense
    Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    Any of you occultist/new ageers ever hear of PaRDeS?
    Just like with the "bibliacs", there's great variety and diversity among what you call "occultists" and "new ageers".

    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    Pardes meaning garden fruit
    That's not what it means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    The P, R, D, S, are the initials of the 4 different way of reading bible.

    1, literal sense
    2, allegorical way
    3, midrashic/rabbinic sense
    4, esoteric sense
    Has the possibility occurred to you that the "Sod" sense (esoteric) might be exactly what I'm referring to in this thread, like for example the opposite of the literal ("Pshat") sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Just like with the "bibliacs", there's great variety and diversity among what you call "occultists" and "new ageers".
    My intent was to differentiate occultists and new agers from spiritual seekers... As an ocultist is someone simply against God, and the Good, which is God (remember Poimandres' Good discourse? Hermes speaks often in very similar terms to bible: example: the genesis according to Hermes; or the importance of the Son of God for Hermes). The occultist, as the new age, look for some exotic stuff with power, and it is finalized to itself. But Hermes explained very clearly how this is simply wrong, and how all those exotic and powerful stuff (and all the basis of nature like breathing) is only possible thanks to God.
    The indian mythology explains this very very well: what is the difference between a hindu God and a hindu asura?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    That's not what it means.
    Pardes = orchard
    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Has the possibility occurred to you that the "Sod" sense (esoteric) might be exactly what I'm referring to in this thread, like for example the opposite of the literal ("Pshat") sense?
    I want to be the opposit george in this post, but what would be esoteric about boiling goat in milk? Making cream of goat? :-D About the first post, milk is not the water from where the goat comes from. It is more a kind of urinous fluid: the amniotic liquid. According to me, it is out of context. But the analogy is interesting.
    If we take that part (the precepts of the jews) of Exodus, and decide to interpret it hermetically (as it sounds very interesting), we can read there something interesting of course. And this is something that people like Fulcanelli or Philaletes did.
    What i think is that making assumptions of the kind of Fulcanelli, and pretending that the writer of exodus meant that what you say is the real, and by that taking for granted that all the rest of the bible is the opposite of what is written, ecc i think its not correct.

    Then, of course the esoteric meaning may be the opposite of the literal, but it depends on the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    Pardes meaning garden fruit
    Maybe you meant fruit garden (orchard), not garden fruit. Opposite George Syntax LOL. Psycho-semantic misunderstanding around the order of the words. All good now

    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    My intent was to differentiate occultists and new agers from spiritual seekers... As an ocultist is someone simply against God, and the Good, which is God
    That's highly subjective. Occult essentially means "hidden". It ain't necessarily "against good". What is "good", anyway? Good for whom? Good for what? We can make sense of it in a multitude of ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    the esoteric meaning may be the opposite of the literal, but it depends on the case.
    We can agree on this.

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