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    Good find! Also on the title page of Mutus Liber we see a Jacob sleeping on a Holy ground and his head resting on a stone. Behind we see a row of old Oaks out of which the living water flows. Guess what the name of this Jacob stone was:

    http://www.supercoloring.com/colorin...stone-with-oil

    https://www.agodman.com/blog/signifi...od-oil-gen-28/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Jacob

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    I'm not really into the meteorite theory.

    But this resonates with me big time .....

    "I am the All. Cleave a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up a stone, and You will find Me there."

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    Everybody has it's own theory but this one fits perfectly in my mind. Over the next few weeks i am gonna post my findings about these stones from grimoires and religious texts. I am a bit lazy and subject in matter is huge but we will get there.
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    So there is this rosary bead, or Betel, where God especially resides. And according to Mutus Liber quotes, a Heavenly Agent called Dew is needed to open it.

    Maybe represented by Jacob (patient) being awakened by the Angels (agent).... sort of hammer/anvil couple. As per Aurea Catena Homeri.

    The Niter symbol may stay there to show the descent of Odem Force when Jacob has been awoken..

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Initiate View Post
    My understanding is similar to yours but i believe it's the first matter which makes our science holy. In this matter all the seeds are shut like in a treasure chest waiting to be found by an artist. The ancients were heavily into stone worship and even Jesus has built his church on a holy stone. All religious people are holding stones in their hands when praying even Fulcanelli has hold the first matter in his hands every day without him realizing what it was but i think i know what it was.

    The matter depicted in this rosary is close to the real first matter out of which the true rosary is made.


    METEORITE-stone-
    rosary......
    https://www.jmjblessedbeads.com/list...rosary-natural

    TP I am total agree it is all very interesting one stone of METORITE for have real pray
    ok meteorite ? but whart tipe of meteorite ?

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    What stones were worshiped at every ancient temple? Even today in Mecca? C'mon Leo...
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    You are very close but i couldn't find rosary made of the stone i had in mind so that was the closest looking rock i could find. The real ones have much more smoother surface.
    about this there are example in modern age the use of rosary made by stone of METEORITE Black Tektite

    https://www.jmjblessedbeads.com/list...rosary-natural

    but what it is the true tipe of meteorite ? or celestial stome of the LAPIDRIUM SACRED ( nb the ancient lapidarium was made always by some very special stome meteorite arrived by sky ) and this it is the all traditions of the ancient
    But what stones METEORITE ? SCACERT LAPIDARIUM we must use for have this sacred mediun wiht gods ?

    my best regard
    Last edited by alfr; 02-21-2021 at 06:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argento Vivo View Post
    So there is this rosary bead, or Betel, where God especially resides. And according to Mutus Liber quotes, a Heavenly Agent called Dew is needed to open it.

    Maybe represented by Jacob (patient) being awakened by the Angels (agent).... sort of hammer/anvil couple. As per Aurea Catena Homeri.

    The Niter symbol may stay there to show the descent of Odem Force when Jacob has been awoken..
    That part has been solved with Saltpeter and Tartar. Just replace Antimony with Bethel stone in the old recipes and you are good to go.

    Alfr asks which type of meteorite to choose from? Their chemical composition is always the same the difference is only in the proportions which result in different type of crystalization. Octahedrite are the best followed by hexahedrite and chondrites are the most common type and usually of poor quality and more of a stony nature.
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    What makes vulgars antimony + Tartar + Niter holy/sacred, according to You, True Initiate?

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    There is no Antimony involved! I said replace Antimony with Bethel stones and proceed as you normally would in the Dry path,
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    But all dry path modus operandi of the ancients differ apparently from what Dujols started. Or where can we see such kind of practice? I dont recollect any

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    SO Bethel stones ... IS IRON METEORITE OCTAHEDRITE
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octahedrite

    VERY INTERSTING SO WHERE ARE A CONCRETE AND NOT A ONLY SIMBOLIC REFERENCE TRADIDIDIONAL OF THE REFERENCE ON IT METEORITE STONE
    AND WHY ? METEORITE OCTAHEDRITE IT IS MEDIUN WHIT GODS SO THIS IT IS A ONE ONLY SAY SIMBOLIC ?
    OR IT THIS ( IRON) METEORITE OCTAHEDRITE have one true and real effect TO BRING THANKS TO IT BY IT SIMPLE PRESENCE OF SOME PEICES OF METEORITE OCTAHEDRITE BRING at the connection whit gods ( EX similar deep state of connection wiht gods some experience vusion etc ) if one pray and made meditation whih one rosario and mala , or if ine stay to pray etc near onphalos or sacred lapidarirum ancient etc made whit it (IRON) METEORITE OCTAHEDRITE ?
    Very thanks TP so we looking forward to seeing the other stuff you've promised us later. very thanks

    Regard

    ABOUT THE VARIOUS BAETYLUS METEORITE SACRED STONE OF THE ANCIENT also SEE PHOTOS

    The stone meteorite :
    the BAETYLUS of Aphrodite Sanctuary of Cypro

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baetylus

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctu..._(cropped).jpg
    Last edited by alfr; 02-22-2021 at 01:03 AM.

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