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    There's an interview with Martin Pytela in the ormus group chats, which you can find a link to HERE.
    Martin is an amazing person who has an incredible understanding of the amazing spirit of the world.
    Martin says 'ormus', while I say 'HIM'....a rose by any name still smells as fragrant.
    Martin describes the life cycle of HIM as follows:

    = The core of the planet is heavily concentrated with particles of HIM.
    = Volcanoes eject volcanic ash and magma from deep underground to the surface, which moves particles of HIM from the core to the surface.
    = The surface areas surrounding volcanic activity briefly flourish with life as the HIM particles are gradually dispersed.
    = Over time, the particles of HIM eventually get washed into the oceans as river sediment.
    = In the oceans, the pieces of HIM are absorbed by ocean dwelling life-forms which collect and store it inside calcium carbonate.
    = The ocean creatures later die leaving the pieces of HIM trapped in the calcium carbonate skeletons.

    But I would add just a little bit extra:
    = Over eons of time the calcium carbonate skeletons coalesce together to form limestone rock
    = Over more time, the sea beds rise and become dry land
    = Ground water gradually dissolves the limestone, redistributing HIM back into the cycle of life for another round.
    [Allowing the clever alchemist the opportunity to intercept HIM by collecting limestone spring water.]
    = And so on....

    Martin also had an incredible understanding of the extra dimensional nature of gaia particles.
    Unfortunately the audience had no interest in hearing his understandings and he was quickly steered to other topics, but not before he was able to communicate the following:

    = Martin imagines individual gaia particles as being objects of 3 dimensions.
    = But....each one is dimensionally rotated so that one of the dimensional arms projects into the 4th spatial dimension.
    = This means that in our 3D world, only 2 of their dimensions are visible to us.
    = Martin says that if you pack many of them together in a substance, their surface area of contact is huge but they have absolutely no volume.
    Just like lots of pieces of ultra-thin paper.
    = In other words, they exert significant influence in this world, but can't be physically measured or detected.

    IMO Martin has given us a really good metaphor to try to imagine and understand how gaia particles work their magic.
    I only disagree with Martin on one point.....IMO gaia particles can be measured based on their effect on salts.
    Most noteably they change the color of silver oxide from brown/black (when there's none) to white (when there's loads of them).
    I started a thread discussing this HERE.
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    Just making a correction from my original post of this thread.
    In the OP, I said:
    “EM radiation causes gaia particles to spin faster. Including sunlight.”
    I originally thought this because:
    = Hudson placed a moist white powder in sunlight that disappeared in a flash of light.
    = Jerel made colloidal gold, oxidised with peroxide and then placed in sunlight and made a p-stone.
    It seemed to me that sunlight was somehow giving the gaia particles a bit of a torsion kick.

    But.....I now realise this is not the case.
    It turns out that leaving HIM water in direct sunlight, causes an unpleasant taste and induces illness after drinking it.
    Ask me how do I know this
    Others have made similar reports of getting sick after mild exposure to DOR radiation.
    IMO, DOR is emission of neutrons and strange radiation, after strong torsion brake force is applied to gaia particles.
    DOR emission is akin to my metaphor of the spinning plates falling off the stick and smashing on the table.
    IMO the standard reaction in cold fusion is for the stalled gaia particle to smash into a deuterium atom and cause 2 free neutrons to eject out.

    The standard deuterium reaction:
    gaia particle + deuterium atom (neutron/proton/electron) = 2 free neutrons

    To accept this, you'll have to understand the following:
    proton + electron + gaia particle = neutron
    Classical physics already has this same understanding, although they use the word neutrino instead of gaia particle.
    A rose by any other name.....

    Sunlight reaction:
    It appears that sunlight can induce a similar reaction in atoms heavier than deuterium.
    gaia particle + [atom bigger than hydrogen] = 2 free neutrons + [original atom minus 1 neutron, 1 proton and 1 electron]
    In other words ..... sunlight + gaia particle transmutes an atom into an element one position lighter on the periodic table.

    Expanding further:
    UV/laser light causes the same reaction as direct sunlight because:
    = LENR experiment of shining laser into magnet+sunlight exposed water emits strange radiation.
    = Moray increased amount of precious metals in solution by bombarding with “high energy photons”

    In Hindsight, ormus researchers reported years ago that sunlight/EM converts ormus to metal, the same as sulfites/carbon/carbon monoxide/nitrous oxide/sulfur.
    So I should've known about sunlight all along
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    In your view, how would this sit with some Alchemical practices of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using sunlight with lenses, mirrors, etc.?

    If memory serves, Wilhelm Reich claimed that DOR is only (or mainly) manifesting in "contaminated" energy environments, such as EM pollution, radioactivity, etc... Which was much less the case in "older" centuries...

    The ONLY contemporary case (that I directly know about) of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using optical methods (a Spirit that was subsequently "progressed" to the potency of actual, proven Transmutation), was when the condensation was literally performed in the desert, i.e. no clouds, no electrical grid, basically far away from "civilization".

    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto alchemist View Post
    But.....I now realize this is not the case.
    It turns out that leaving HIM water in direct sunlight, causes an unpleasant taste and induces illness after drinking it.
    Ask me how do I know this
    Others have made similar reports of getting sick after mild exposure to DOR radiation.
    IMO, DOR is emission of neutrons and strange radiation, after strong torsion brake force is applied to gaia particles.
    DOR emission is akin to my metaphor of the spinning plates falling off the stick and smashing on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    In your view, how would this sit with some Alchemical practices of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using sunlight with lenses, mirrors, etc.?
    I did say that Jerel made his amazing substance by placing his oxidised colloidal gold solution in sunlight.
    Whatever's actually going on in Jerel's process, the effect would be far more pronounced and quicker if you used a lens/mirrors.
    Sunlight makes colloidal gold turn a darker shade of red.
    I'll admit I still don't understand this effect.
    Do you have any ideas about Jerel's process or the old timers using those massive lenses?

    If memory serves, Wilhelm Reich claimed that DOR is only (or mainly) manifesting in "contaminated" energy environments, such as EM pollution, radioactivity, etc... Which was much less the case in "older" centuries...
    Yeah they wouldn't have needed to worry about DOR from EM pollution in the earlier times.
    But they still had elemental sulfur and radioactive rocks such as pitchblende to watch out for.
    I definately seen a couple of references in the old texts about the alchemy potentially producing a deadly poison.
    The ONLY contemporary case (that I directly know about) of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using optical methods (a Spirit that was subsequently "progressed" to the potency of actual, proven Transmutation), was when the condensation was literally performed in the desert, i.e. no clouds, no electrical grid, basically far away from "civilization".
    I never heard of this...please tell more....
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    Maybe sunlight + lens + miron ultraviolet glass would interesting to kind of filter the sunlight to get the best parts only?
    Some say the violet rays are more energetic and wont degrade matter

    Dark red gold sounds like it coagulated to me at least.

    Interesting stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto alchemist View Post
    Do you have any ideas about Jerel's process or the old timers using those massive lenses?
    Don't know about Jerel's process. As for lenses and mirrors, there are quite a few old alchemical texts dealing with Solar Alchemy. Arcana Divina is one of them, I believe. Very graphic. There are other texts that I can't recall at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto alchemist View Post
    I definitely seen a couple of references in the old texts about the alchemy potentially producing a deadly poison.
    If we work on the lowest (Earth) level, i.e. with metals/minerals, there is more "crap" to get rid of in the process and more dangers of toxicity/poisoning. Less so on the "Water" level (I think Brine or Mother Brine is referenced in some R+C texts, such as Thesaurus Thesaurorum), and even less impurities or toxicity on the Air level (Sun + Air + Optics, etc...), and the purest would theoretically be the pure Fire level condensation, directly from the Source.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto alchemist View Post
    I never heard of this...please tell more....
    Can't, unfortunately. This particular practice did not originate from me (I wasn't the one who conceived it), so I cannot really discuss it beyond what I already wrote. Sorry. But the Optical Alchemy texts should contain all the relevant info to start experimenting. The only truly essential addition I posted is the desert environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    The ONLY contemporary case (that I directly know about) of condensing an Alchemical Spiritus using optical methods (a Spirit that was subsequently "progressed" to the potency of actual, proven Transmutation), was when the condensation was literally performed in the desert, i.e. no clouds, no electrical grid, basically far away from "civilization".
    Yes, this is genuine Alchemy.

    This process works, but it is a slower method.

    There is no concern about EM pollution with this process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    There are other texts that I can't recall at the moment.
    The Optic Chapter in Hyle and Coahyl is very good (starting on page 59). Also the "Lana Terzi method" (somewhere on this forum I believe). Also the GUR manuscript (5th Grade), of which Florius Frammel was so kind to transcribe and translate the first chapter and post somewhere else on this forum. There's probably more, but I can't recall. There's also a thread called The Solar Path.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    Also the GUR manuscript (5th Grade), of which Florius Frammel was so kind to transcribe and translate the first chapter and post somewhere else on this forum.
    Just noticed that the Image from the GUR manuscript that Florius uploaded is gone... So here is is again:



    The accompanying textual translation/summary kindly posted by Florius Frammel can be found HERE.

    Also, the "Lana Terzi" text/method from the "Solar Path" thread can be found HERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghetto alchemist View Post
    Yeah they wouldn't have needed to worry about DOR from EM pollution in the earlier times.
    But they still had elemental sulfur and radioactive rocks such as pitchblende to watch out for.
    If we're already talking of Orgone and Sulfur, and to use a comparison with "Orgonite", Sulfur would represent the "poor conductor" but Spirit/Orgone concentrating protagonist.

    Conversely, metals are the Spirit/Orgone attractive and forward-passing protagonists.

    This is what makes metal/Sulfur compounds so "alchemically interesting", such as Iron Sulfates (copperas/vitriols) or Iron Sulfides (Marcasites, Pyrites), or even Cinnabar (Mercury Sulfide) for the super daring.
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