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    Hello guys, thanks for your replies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kibric View Post
    It can mean more than one thing. For a coded guide it would make sense. Where are the other stars ?
    Only the sun and moon.
    It can mean more than one things of course.
    But I'm speaking very literally here, if you collect that water other time of year except spring (or autumn to a lesser degree) you will not see what is described in the next plates. So I'm pretty sure those two animals refer to the timing, at least one of their meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    3. It has to be separated from the "Slimy Stratum" it appears in.
    Further experimentation is planned, using the entire Oily Stratum (with the Salt/Earth in it) and see if it "attracts" more.

    This idea is based on an older post with a very different approach, but some interesting similarities (Oil -> Salt -> Mercurial Water).

    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    7. It is inert (does not "release its energy") unless first liquefied and "opened" by its "Spirit" counterpart. Then it becomes the "First Mercury", or "Mercury Simplex".
    Emphasis on Liquefaction (of the matter itself) as opposed to Common Dissolution via Common Deliquescence.

    Some methods (much more time consuming) involve many, many repeated dissolutions and coagulations of common Salts (Sea Salt, Potash, etc.), by exposing them to air/dew, until the Sea Salt itself remains either liquefied or fixed/fusible after Coagulation (possibly depending on the ratios), OR the Potash is no longer attracting humidity and remains insoluble OR any other interesting variation. One Forum Member posted (almost five years ago today) how his Salt changed from Deliquescent to Non-Deliquescent, and how he managed to distill some Interesting Stuff from it. I have not personally gone too far with such methods, but others apparently have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andro View Post
    You continue to come up with what I have already written explicitly

    I've already described the attributes of this Earth and where it actually becomes an Earth, before that only being much less "corporeal", in the Air/Aer/Aether.

    1. It "floats" on the surface of the Water.

    2. It has an affinity with the oily stratum that forms on the surface of the Water (I assume that's exactly what Christophorus described in one of his Water Experiments).

    3. It has to be separated from the "Slimy Stratum" it appears in (not difficult).

    4. Its Origin is apparently not from the Water itself, or at least not entirely. However, both the Water and the Vessel(s) are extremely easy and cheap to obtain. Still, not all Waters are the same. Good Water is better than bad Water

    5. Its corporeal constitution appears to be similar to Calx/Lime (St. Didier) but it's not exactly the same.

    6. It is tasteless, odorless and insoluble in both polar and non-polar solvents.

    7. It is inert (does not "release its energy") unless first liquefied and "opened" by its "Spirit" counterpart. Then it becomes the "First Mercury", or "Mercury Simplex".

    8. In and of itself, it has no medicinal or transmuting properties whatsoever, because it is still fully "locked" or "sealed".

    9. Conjecture: This matter MAY be very similar in properties to the inert "Ormus" precipitate, after washing ALL the other salts away. I'm talking OCD-level washing

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    What I'm writing here is not just from my own experimental practice, but is also strongly supported by the relevant literature.
    Hello Andro.

    1 - Yes
    2 - I do believe so
    3 - I think I will manage to do it. I need to figure out how to isolate it. Will try to extract it with a pipette and then OCD wash it with dist. water.
    4 - Amen to that! I already tried different water and the results are not the same. The water has definitely a role in the process.

    Thank you!
    A+M+D+G+
    Christophorus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christophorus View Post
    Hello Andro
    Hello Dear

    Quote Originally Posted by Christophorus View Post
    Thank you!
    My pleasure! I'm inspired to share more when I see that people (such as yourself) are actually experimenting AND sharing their experiments.

    Maybe you'll come visit me on The Island one day... There's plenty of "HIM" around here
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    So do I, and the forum is getting more active lately. This brings me enormous joy.

    And yes! I do hope to pay you guys a visit.

    All my best to you!
    A+M+D+G+
    Christophorus

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    Quote Originally Posted by theFool View Post
    Thanks for addressing that issue. You refer to a plate of mutus liber, which is probably the only book that "speaks" openly and without secrecy about the Opus. According to that plate, it seems to me that the influence of sun and moon is already incorporated into the water we collect because it came from the atmosphere. The "alchemical salt" in the atmosphere has already been exposed to the various lights, until we collect it as dew or rain. As I see it, there is no other plate or reference in mutus liber that requires us to further expose the collected water to the elements.

    What is your opinion on that?
    Look at Plate #9:
    https://picryl.com/media/mutus-liber-da4c3a

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    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Yes ... I have seen this point of view mentioned many times over the years, but I'm not a follower
    of this practice for the Great Work.

    Though I do believe it is of assistance in the Test protocol.


    Venus / "HIM" is most potent with an enormous amount of Energy.

    When we consider transmuting 1KG of lead (Pb) to gold (Au) the huge concentration of Energy
    that is required for this work with just a small piece of the Stone.

    Do you have any ideas as to where this massive amount of Energy might come from ?
    Many of the alchemists say that it is the prime matter or building block of all that exists. Some call it "spiritus mundi", the spirit of the world. Some suggest that it descends from the heavens and others that it rises from the "central sun" of the world (inner molten core?). All metals are made of it through various degrees of coction and influences (heat, adjacent substances, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by theFool View Post
    To complement the previous post,


    we see in that plate the water emanating as droplets from a not shown source above the plate (probably it is "God"). During their descension towards earth they receive the influence of the luminaries.
    In the plate, they are actually wringing the cloth that they used to collect the dew. This is only one way of collecting our water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illen A. Cluf View Post
    Thanks. This solves the mystery of the meaning of that plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theFool View Post
    Thanks. This solves the mystery of the meaning of that plate.
    Notice also that the beams of light are not coming from either the Sun or Moon, but from their combined influences.

    There is drawing from another work that shows the light emanating from the Sun, being directed to the Moon, and then reflecting directly to the alchemist's plate of water through a magnifying lens. I couldn't find a link to this picture.

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